View Poll Results: What should we do?
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Nothing, Cat is out of the bag and this is the cost of our "freedom"
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Prison Time for gun owners who lose or have their gun stolen
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Background checks and a waiting period for 100% of transactions
119 76.28% -
No semiautomatic anythings...
60 38.46% -
Tax gun sales with additional fee to go to mental health
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Register ALL firearms and require insurance (car analogy)
101 64.74%
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06-03-2022, 12:55 PM #1776
If someone's position is that guns are their right and schoolkids getting massacred is the price of freedom, I can accept that. I don't agree, but it's an intellectually honest position. People who try to argue that more guns will lead to less gun violence, however, can fuck right off.
Heh.
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06-03-2022, 12:57 PM #1777I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.
"Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"
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06-03-2022, 01:02 PM #1778
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06-03-2022, 01:17 PM #1779
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06-03-2022, 01:21 PM #1780
morons are gonna moron; meanwhile, normal folks move on and reset expectations for healthy society
car safety, smoking indoors, same sex marriage
stuff changes despite the loudmouth resistance when it's the right thing to do
we certainly have challenges (covid, roe v wade, energy choices), but progress needs to hold course to doing the right thing
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06-03-2022, 01:27 PM #1781
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06-03-2022, 01:29 PM #1782
i understand the thought behind this as an academic exercise
but IRL that rationale is pretty detestable
esp when this whole thing has been wrangled as a 3rd rail touchstone for what amounts to a culture war
What defensive use data there is is small compared to the number of deaths. And it's microscopic compared to the number of firearms in civilian hands...
What fucking kills me about these "patriots" whose espouse 2A bs is that these patriots are absolutely certain that their favorite country (the one they tell you to "love it or leave it") is going to fuck them over at some point in the future and this lethal idol is their savior...
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06-03-2022, 01:30 PM #1783
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06-03-2022, 01:30 PM #1784
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06-03-2022, 01:31 PM #1785?
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I wonder what gun sales are like today and this coming weekend. I’m thinking another new record
And in other news the army announced that they are replacing the M4 / With a new platform from Sig. Bigger very high velocity round. 80,000 psi. Requires expensive custom ammunitionOwn your fail. ~Jer~
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06-03-2022, 01:31 PM #1786
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06-03-2022, 01:33 PM #1787
funnily enough, last weekend had a lot of shooting too
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/memoria...hootings-2022/
otoh, i can only find one defensive shooting
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06-03-2022, 01:34 PM #1788
Only thing this is going to do is drive up the prices of firearms, magazines and ammo. The Dems will be reminded of their demise following the passage of the initial AWB in 1994. There will be pounding of chests and pontification by all.
My thoughts.
If you have mental health issues, you go on the NCIS list and fail a background. There needs to be a procedure to restore your rights in place.
If you use a weapon in the commission of a crime, there is a mandatory minimum sentence imposed. Oh wait, we have that, but rarely utilized. Nor do we want to pay the freight on jails to house the offenders.
If you are a domestic abuser, you lose your firearm ownership rights and are charged with a serious firearms violation if caught with a firearm. Oh wait, we have that law, but rarely utilized or enforced.
States need to enact waiting periods. Oh wait, we have that.
What about a new AWB or hi cap mag ban? Well, many states have done that with little effect on the problem.
Wait, if you are addicted to drugs, lets make you a prohibited persons. What if we put a check box on the 4473 to ask if you are an addict, including MJ, which bans the sale to you. Oh wait, we've done that. Addicts simply ignore.
What if we say you can't buy a gun for a prohibited person. Oh wait, we've done that.
What if we make a law that says you can't shoot someone with a firearm? Have we done that yet?
What if we make a law that says you can't murder someone with a firearm.......In order to properly convert this thread to a polyasshat thread to more fully enrage the liberal left frequenting here...... (insert latest democratic blunder of your choice).
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06-03-2022, 01:38 PM #1789
You've just made a case for no laws at all. Quite the paradox given the party of law and order.
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06-03-2022, 01:41 PM #1790?
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It’s spring time. It’s getting warm and the days are longer
But we have to acknowledge that there is an increasing amount of crazy happening in all parts of the country
In my area there is not that much shooting going on. And half of it is self defense shootings
I am still a bit concerned that too many people with no training are buying AR platforms and sticking them in the closet. Maybe out in the woods plinking on the weekendsOwn your fail. ~Jer~
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06-03-2022, 01:42 PM #1791
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06-03-2022, 01:42 PM #1792
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06-03-2022, 01:46 PM #1793
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06-03-2022, 01:52 PM #1794
Let's give everyone who isn't ALREADY a felon virtually instant access to be ability to EASILY carry out total mayhem for roughly $1,000. What could possibly go wrong???
Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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06-03-2022, 01:53 PM #1795
If only there was something we could do...
there have been 10 defensive use incidents this year in NV
there have been 140 shooting incidents this year in NV
[eta] search gunviolencearchive.org database for this year & NV https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/queryLast edited by ::: :::; 06-03-2022 at 02:34 PM.
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06-03-2022, 01:53 PM #1796
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06-03-2022, 01:57 PM #1797?
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After seeing evidence and some first hand observations. I could get behind a law that restricts gun possession while on Prozac and similar drugs. Mass shooter on Prozac seems to be a thing
It cannot be a coincidence. And can be trackedOwn your fail. ~Jer~
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06-03-2022, 02:01 PM #1798?
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06-03-2022, 02:08 PM #1799
almost 700K of Nevada's 3mil live in Vegas.
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06-03-2022, 02:11 PM #1800
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