View Poll Results: What should we do?
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Nothing, Cat is out of the bag and this is the cost of our "freedom"
16 10.26% -
Prison Time for gun owners who lose or have their gun stolen
30 19.23% -
Background checks and a waiting period for 100% of transactions
119 76.28% -
No semiautomatic anythings...
60 38.46% -
Tax gun sales with additional fee to go to mental health
70 44.87% -
Register ALL firearms and require insurance (car analogy)
101 64.74%
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11-21-2022, 10:13 PM #3876
It was Mr. Fierro’s first time at a drag show. He said he was having fun.
“These kids want to live that way, want to have a good time, have at it,” he said in the interview on Monday. “I’m happy about it because that is what I fought for, so they can do whatever the hell they want.”
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11-21-2022, 10:26 PM #3877
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11-21-2022, 11:36 PM #3878
good guy veteran stops bad guy...but also is pro drag parties...Fox News is gonna be confused about how to portray this one
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11-21-2022, 11:54 PM #3879
Guy's so humble. Not taking any credit. Just did what was necessary. Upset that he couldn't have prevented the five deaths.
A hellavalotta blowhards could take a lesson from this guy, but they won't. True hero.
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11-22-2022, 12:03 AM #3880
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11-22-2022, 08:22 AM #3881
So a good guy without a gun. Who could have guessed?
I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.
"Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"
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11-22-2022, 11:46 AM #3882
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11-22-2022, 02:29 PM #3883
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11-22-2022, 02:41 PM #3884
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11-22-2022, 02:46 PM #3885
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11-22-2022, 02:46 PM #3886
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11-22-2022, 11:49 PM #3887
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11-23-2022, 07:30 AM #3888
If anything could push action it would be a mass murder a stone's throw from the nation's capitol. But it won't!
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11-23-2022, 08:37 AM #3889Registered User
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Pretty insane comments on Fox yesterday from a guest (Gays against Groomers) basically saying we should expect more gay club mass shootings until they get their preferred policies in place (run of the mill anti trans/gay stuff).
Which sounds an awful lot like someone threatening indiscriminate violence against civilians to accomplish their political goals.
Mental health crisis I guess.
I wonder where, with who’s money and how such ideas have been amplified. Who knows, total mystery…
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11-23-2022, 08:59 AM #3890
They're not wrong about it being a mental health crisis, it's just that the crisis is theirs.
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11-23-2022, 11:31 AM #3891
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11-23-2022, 11:39 AM #3892
quite aside from any tradition or cultural upbringing, i find it all baffling the various and multiple ways in which people say they NEED to have a gun
i can accept that some percentage may actually need a firearm, but the volume of people making the claim really begs some introspection on what daily life is like
and then, the followup question: why do people aspire to live a life that requires being constantly armed?
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11-23-2022, 11:47 AM #3893
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11-23-2022, 12:04 PM #3894User
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I don’t know, the fact that a trip to Walmart in anywhere USA may lead to a gunfight kinda makes me want to carry a gun.
And…..12 pages of handwringing….go.
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11-23-2022, 12:06 PM #3895Registered User
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11-23-2022, 12:07 PM #3896
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11-23-2022, 12:21 PM #3897
I had a recent convo with someone in our little village about the 10 round magazine limit in OR’s Measure 114.
“I need it (large cap mag) on my farm to chase coyotes from my chicken coop” he sez.
My response “if you need more than 10 rounds to chase off a coyote, your problem isn’t magazine capacity, it’s that you suck at marksmanship.”
He didn’t like that much “I’m a great shot!”
“Then why do you need so many bullets to chase off a ‘yote? Pretty sure I would only need one or two. You know they will run at the first shot if you’re at all close to target”
Lotta mumbling and he walked off.
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11-23-2022, 12:28 PM #3898
That's the hope of the NRA. They secretly love these mass shootings. It's good for business. So do the Republicans. Their hollow thoughts and prayers while they rake in tens of millions of dollars in NRA campaign contributions and actively try to weaken gun laws is proof that they are pro gun violence.
"We don't beat the reaper by living longer, we beat the reaper by living well and living fully." - Randy Pausch
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11-23-2022, 01:38 PM #3899
That seems to be the response i hear too.
It is however a pretty backwards "solution" under the least amount of scrutiny and emblematic of why we keep having these issues.
IE...the current process of "everyone gets a gun" and little in the way of deciding who can responsibly use one.
Gun proponents say "regulations don't work"; per the chart upthread, they demonstrably do.
The larger problem is that unfettered gun availability doesn't work.
For those that claim "it's the person not the gun", I ask: with that as a presumptive basis for the issue, why would you ever give the person a gun without heavy scrutiny of the person?
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11-23-2022, 01:51 PM #3900Registered User
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I’m hoping that “gun proponents” are figuring out that if they don’t get on the train that is headed towards implementing common sense solutions to this issue they are really, really not going to like what comes down the pike.
I get the impression that a majority of people are pretty much done with the BS excuses and stalling.
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