View Poll Results: What should we do?
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Nothing, Cat is out of the bag and this is the cost of our "freedom"
16 10.26% -
Prison Time for gun owners who lose or have their gun stolen
30 19.23% -
Background checks and a waiting period for 100% of transactions
119 76.28% -
No semiautomatic anythings...
60 38.46% -
Tax gun sales with additional fee to go to mental health
70 44.87% -
Register ALL firearms and require insurance (car analogy)
101 64.74%
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05-27-2022, 04:35 PM #1051
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05-27-2022, 04:39 PM #1052
People strapped up for the future toilet paper wars and global hand sanitizer riots.
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05-27-2022, 04:39 PM #1053
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05-27-2022, 04:47 PM #1054
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05-27-2022, 04:50 PM #1055
just goes back to the gaslighting involved with "needing" a firearm
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05-27-2022, 04:51 PM #1056
Texas cops are only good for harassing dark skinned folks, abortion providers and people with a bag of weed. The more I read about their inaction and cowardice the sicker I get. And the feds (didn't really) save the day when Texas pork pusssed out.
Thin blue line my thin white ass
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Have you seen a one armed man around here?
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05-27-2022, 04:51 PM #1057
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05-27-2022, 04:52 PM #1058
actually, I cannot imagine believing I had any right to continue in that line of Work if I was one of those individuals and had been in town that day...
but I have seen the kind of people that are now drawn to 'law enforcement. ( heavy on the Enforcement ) '
it's a broad brush. and no one from Uvalde law enforcement stepped forward.
children deserve better.
tj
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05-27-2022, 04:56 PM #1059
Those cops should be on suicide watch.
Can’t imagine.
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05-27-2022, 04:58 PM #1060
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05-27-2022, 05:09 PM #1061
I'm not sure if new information came to light but the story from the beginning has been a 3 or 4 person Border Patrol Tactical Unit (BORTAC) team, not just one guy, led the breach into the classroom with the shooter after Texas police officers delayed confronting the shooter themselves?
The cops keep changing their story so you might be right. I'm only asking because it seems like the only part of the story that hasn't changed is after local dithering federal agents acted on their own volition to go in after the shooter.
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05-27-2022, 05:18 PM #1062
I disagree with "lots." Do they exist? Sure. But you can't make a determination with something as vague as "blue county." I live (part time) and grew up in an extremely liberal county (nearly 70% voted for Biden) and I still know plenty of conservatives buying more and more guns. Feel free to prove me wrong with some actual data but my anecdotal guess would be that 95% of AR-15 owners are GOP or Independent voters, and that number might be on the low side.
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05-27-2022, 05:19 PM #1063
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05-27-2022, 05:27 PM #1064
I don't think it was forgotten. I think the protests and calls to defund the police nearly cost Democrats the House and caused a lot of elections to be closer than they otherwise would have been. Being "pro-cop" shouldn't mean asking citizens to become more like cops, and cops to become more like soldiers.
People are rightly horrified by the cops behavior in Uvalde. But cops are not soldiers, whereas the team that neutralized a shooter armed with ARs essentially are soldiers.
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05-27-2022, 05:29 PM #1065Registered User
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There's no federal registry. Some states do have registries, and feds keep track of the volume of background checks (not sure if those contain a self reporting field for first time gun buyers).
Considering the possibility that a significant portion of people in a rural town know that your politics lean left and then that the majority of households in the county probably have firearms, and then doing the math on low-hanging fruit and assumptions about lack of guns due to politics, well, yes, it can be quite disquieting. In an Armageddon scenario, it doesn't take many of those armed people being asshats to ruin your day.
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05-27-2022, 05:33 PM #1066
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05-27-2022, 05:39 PM #1067
Totally agree. Plays right into the same concept of don't let great be the enemy of good. This younger liberal generation is very passionate and that's wonderful but they need to understand that change happens gradually, not in one big sweeping reform. Basically anyone who isn't "all in" so to speak become traitors to the cause or whatever and it actually slows down progress. Take AOC for example - I actually really like her but she's a little guilty of falling into this trap at times.
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05-27-2022, 05:40 PM #1068
Right, that's the narrative not necessarily the reality. If there's one overall lesson we should be learning, regardless of where a person falls on the political spectrum, is liberal democracy doesn't come easy and should not be taken for granted. It's a mess but so far no one has been able to come up with a better path.
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05-27-2022, 05:51 PM #1069
If I’m not mistaken, the “defund the police” heavy thinkers are older than most of us. But they’re POC.
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05-27-2022, 05:55 PM #1070
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05-27-2022, 05:57 PM #1071
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05-27-2022, 05:59 PM #1072
respectfully, No.
I have a great friend who was Border Patrol -
That is Not / is not supposed to be combat.
Too much of our culture wants to equate to combat. 'battle'. 'war'. No.
soldier face combat.
police are not soldiers, But they have a duty and a Responsibility.
I am Not suggesting that any police who did not act become a security guard - that is not different work.
( deliver newspapers, flip burgers, herd cats. That's different work --
enlist. Maybe as a soldier they could figure-out what they should be doing. Because they areN't police officers.
Dang. )
enough. for now. tj
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05-27-2022, 05:59 PM #1073
^we’ll never really know. Police are proven liars and local news agencies are their stenographers printing every word they say without follow up questions or corroboration.
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05-27-2022, 06:05 PM #1074
Good read on the “pro-life” state.
https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-po...alde-shooting/
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05-27-2022, 06:13 PM #1075
I think we're mostly in agreement. These BORTAC guys however are not just regular Border Patrol agents. They're highly trained, highly capable. They are headquartered and trained at Fort Bliss U.S. Army base in El Paso, Texas. One of their main missions is to respond to terrorist threats. They conduct narcotics operations overseas. They supported the military mission in Afghanistan. Stateside, they routinely breach buildings during drugs raids, etc.
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