View Poll Results: What should we do?
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Nothing, Cat is out of the bag and this is the cost of our "freedom"
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Prison Time for gun owners who lose or have their gun stolen
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Background checks and a waiting period for 100% of transactions
119 76.28% -
No semiautomatic anythings...
60 38.46% -
Tax gun sales with additional fee to go to mental health
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Register ALL firearms and require insurance (car analogy)
101 64.74%
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05-28-2022, 09:12 AM #1126
Your replying to reply I made to a post days ago out of context where someone posted a picture of a maximum security prison. Try and keep up here bud.
Obviously there are gun control measures that need enacted but I don’t have a decade to wait until those effects kick in. I have a kid in first grade right now and we need to enforce the low hanging fruit partial solutions immediately.
There’s no doubt keeping the school doors locked and the classroom doors locked would slow down an attack if someone made an attempt. In fact my kids school already sent notifications regarding this on Thursday so I’m not talking out my ass.
Sure between classes and recess etc. wouldn’t matter but at least your reducing an option for a shooter.
- Cue some dipshit posting - “the doors were locked at blah blah school and that didn’t help” here’s your preemptive “eat a dick”.
Why are small incremental solutions so hard for some of you to wrap your head around. Some silver bullet sweeping gun control legislation would be great but I don’t have 10 years to see its impact.
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05-28-2022, 09:13 AM #1127
News Flash: BS is a troll without merit.
Consider redirecting your energies to writing to representatives, yours as well as others.
Hammer down on the fact that guns now kill more kids than anything else in America.Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
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05-28-2022, 09:19 AM #1128
Most people are surprised when they find themselves in an experience where they learn the laws around us are not enforced. Imagine how a murder victims family feels when they get a speeding ticket.
Best bet is to control the guns at the source, manufacturer controls, limits, distribution. Add taxes that make them cost prohibitive, requires licenses etc.
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05-28-2022, 09:22 AM #1129Hucked to flat once
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Nice edit and another deflection. No, I’m asking you why you have the gun you do. I’m not talking about MJ use, anyone else’s ownership, what type of guns they own etc. You’ve commented twice that I don’t understand firearms so I’m seeking understanding on why someone like you owns the firearms you do. I think it would give your points credibility. You do post good ideas sometimes. I’m all for armalite or MSR style weapons being listed as class three and even increasing the stamp price for those. 20m x $300 would be a hell of a start towards to many other necessary fixes.
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05-28-2022, 09:24 AM #1130Guilty as charged. I'm not sure you are aware what side I am on.
You've made it Clear -
You are on your side.
That's great.
smoke a doobie, and
cancel your Class3 assault rifle -
and please,
go jump in the lake, dude...
tj
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05-28-2022, 09:25 AM #1131
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05-28-2022, 09:29 AM #1134Hucked to flat once
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05-28-2022, 09:32 AM #1135
Sold them all.
TN doesn't require background checks on private gun sales. Hopefully the buyer has a better safe and more training than I do. Thank God I'm not contributing to the issue anymore though.
I think we can all leave here satisfied we've accomplished something.
*wipes hands of situation knowing that Im not an evil gun owner anymore*"I don't pretend to have all the answers, and I think there's something to be said for that" -One For The Road
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05-28-2022, 09:35 AM #1136
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05-28-2022, 09:48 AM #1137
You kept the “my other weapon is a nimbus 2000” mag though, right potter fan?
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05-28-2022, 09:53 AM #1138
it’s just a bad solution to turn schools into prisons and the “doors locked” solution doesn’t take into account user error, windows, fires, the other shit that can happen. the killings happen so quickly too that once they’re underway it’s like gee, that didn’t work. same with armed guards like uvalde and buffalo. the only thing is to go after the access to guns themselves. anything less means this shit happens more frequently.
is this “lock the doors” legislation which will accomplish nothing fly through congress? of course not. let’s get something with teeth now rather than kick the can over the corpses of another bunch of perforated children.j'ai des grands instants de lucididididididididi
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05-28-2022, 09:57 AM #1139
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05-28-2022, 09:58 AM #1140
There it is.
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05-28-2022, 09:59 AM #1141features a sintered base
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You're not necessarily wrong about any of that, but just throwing up our hands and saying 'it's impossible' is self-defeating nihilism that the NRA has tried to convince us is fact. We're decidedly worse off than other countries on this, and yeah, 2nd A is part of it (of course until Heller it had never been interpreted to guarantee an individual right, and anyone who can read can see that it's twisted to interpret it beyond its obvious military intent--so we don't need to change 2A, we just need a SCOTUS that isn't radically hard right intent on legislating from the bench). But if we were able to get strict gun laws and enforce them things would change--again, we have evidence in this country that it can work. And if there are hold-outs then we'd need to go after them and they'd face the consequences of not obeying the law. Not that big a deal, and the vast majority would fall in line without a fight. But it will obviously, like health care, have to be incremental, one way or another. Not having a SCOTUS that reflects a far-right minority of the country will be part of it.
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05-28-2022, 10:02 AM #1142features a sintered base
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05-28-2022, 10:12 AM #1143
The door talking point is just a mis direction ploy, let’s get everyone going down the door rabbit hole and stop talking about the fucking gun problem
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05-28-2022, 10:22 AM #1144
There we are.
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05-28-2022, 10:29 AM #1145
Thanks for making the attempt. The problem we have in this cuntry is clarifying by the minute: we can't focus on more than one thing at a time so we let the blind tell us that every improvement is "just a distraction" from the preferred solution, which is usually just as fraught with details and potential downsides as all the minor improvements.
We could do more than one thing. If we get creative we might even be able to fit them all in the same letter.
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05-28-2022, 10:40 AM #1146
“Better gun control policies never get pushed through because random strangers from the general public don’t know enough about guns to debate the merits of these policies” is either hall of fame level stupidity or just a dishonest and lazy dismissal.
Bobby when you get through your weed withdrawal maybe weigh in on which it is. Watch Trainspotting for tips on how to get through it.
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05-28-2022, 10:43 AM #1147
FWIW, schools are going to continue the hardening process that started after Columbine no matter what. I don't think anyone is actually opposed to that as much as they are opposed to the need for it.
It's more an argument about competing narratives. One side wants stricter gun control laws while the other wants to increase security casting the shooting as a mental health problem, not a gun problem.
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05-28-2022, 10:44 AM #1148
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05-28-2022, 10:47 AM #1149
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05-28-2022, 10:51 AM #1150
fine.
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