If only there was something we could do...

[mcphee]

^is it even true?

Police chief blurted it out in an early press conference I haven’t seen anything definitive since.

[californiagrown]

No not at all. But you see, most of these gun nuts think otherwise. That's the trick!

You can call your guns, Death Dildos.

Pump action takes on a whole new meaning!

[Ted Striker]

Eleven years ago



Nothing has changed

[jackstraw]

So is this Tennessee rep right?

https://twitter.com/brenonade/status...AhpkcFP_XoA3tQ

Well if his daddy told him, then yes absolutely.

Clearly, the US is full of the best, smartest, and bravest people on earth! Fuck yeah America!!

[Ted Striker]

I'm confused. Did the Japanese kill his daddy before or after he uttered that sage advice?

[mcphee]

Adult referencing their father as “daddy”. Lmao

[Ted Striker]

...or pappy

[mcphee]

I’d have more respect for pappy

[nickwm21]

How does a school shooting/suicide by cop equate to all gun owners being irresponsible?

Regardless of school shootings; firearms being the leading cause of death among children equates to the fact that there are too many irresponsible gun owners….


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[CarlMega]

One of you deep thinking policy writing car salesmen can probably correct me on this line of thinking and why I suck. But every time (which is a lot by now) we get into these post-massacre "what to do" debates, I flash to the old: motive - means - opportunity.

Motive - I agree with most here including pro-gun ppl. Hard, if not impossible, nut to crack here. Just that there increasingly more people who are motivated for these types of attacks.

Opportunity - Here's where we begin to disagree. We can't barricade the world. Opportunity for a shooting will exist virtually everywhere and anywhere there are people.

Means - This is the big disagreement. To me, no gun - no means. You can't shoot people without a gun and ammo. And we have created an environment where the means is beyond easy to attain.

So: Motives will exist. Opportunity is everywhere. But we can try to control the means. At least not make it laughably friction free and magnify the potential of destructiveness by protecting irrational weapons & attainment, combat-type mods & armor and high capacity mags .

[Ted Striker]

I’d have more respect for pappy

It is a good nickname

[Bobby Stainless]

Yeah, that's not my take at all. I'm calling out out Bobby's deflection of "the cops did a good job here unlike Uvalde" as some sort of substitute for sensible preventive measures. Sorry / Not sorry - irreversible damage is already done. You can't unring that bell no matter how good the police are after the shooting starts.



I'm of the belief that a motivated shooter with the element of surprise and an arsenal is a powerful combination that proves to be very successful even against the well trained. So much so, that I'll take those odds any day of the week.

But, hey, that trans callout tells us a lot about you.

Motivated shooter.... JFC. She got smoked immediately.

Sorry. Psychopath with gender dysphoria.

[ex-powderbroker]

Final score: 6-1
Good thing we can fix this by having a private school hire a security guard because that will fix the problem everywhere.

[CarlMega]

Motivated shooter.... JFC. She got smoked immediately.

Yeah, almost like it didn't happen. So....not immediately enough?

You like to call out this shooter as being particularly weak and incompetent. Fine. Does that reasoning work universally or historically? I'm going to say no. It doesn't hold up.

I'll dig up a video local deputy getting shot and nearly killed during a stop where he was vigilant as you'd ever expect a 'professional' to be. Hold on. I'm sure it'll change your opinion on motivated-surprise attacks.

Here you go: https://youtu.be/78PVKRi5rEI?t=49

[Buster Highmen]

Motivated shooter.... JFC. She got smoked immediately.

Sorry. Psychopath with gender dysphoria.

Doesn't matter, 6 people dead.

[The AD]

Motivated shooter.... JFC. She got smoked immediately.

After killing six people. Wouldn't you think the goal should be to prevent anyone from getting shot?

There's a bit of a difference from a guard who is there to prevent this kind of thing and police responding after the shooting has commenced.

[Buzzworthy]

Doesn't matter, 6 people dead.

He clearly doesn’t care. Imagine being this way in life. Protecting guns over human life. I can’t actually fathom this.

[Bobby Stainless]

Seriously, what the fuck does the shooter being trans have to do with anything? Pretty soon they'll tell us they went to a drag show!

My bad. Psychopath with gender dysphoria. I didn't mean to insult actual Transgender individuals.

[Bobby Stainless]

Doesn't matter, 6 people dead.

The argument with Uvalde is the Police were outgunned. Constant goal post changing with you people.

[XXX-er]

Gaddammit, do we have to look to Canadians for a viable mechanism?

I voted nothing cuz the cat is out of the bag

so with that many guns its a whole big fucking industry, lota money/ powerful lobby

The bigger question is ... for what reason is it appropriate to kill people ?

[ex-powderbroker]

That's what you remember about Uvalde?

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New info about Nashville, it seems the doors were locked properly but the shooter took out some glass to enter. I guess all glass should be by default bullet proof for n+1 rounds from now on.

https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/nation...chool/3002690/

The shooter had also purchased 7 (!!!!) firearms recently despite being under a doctors care. Because it's my 2A right to go out and buy as many guns and ammo as a want because I am not a suspect until after I kill a few kids.

Pretty sad state of affairs that the Lock the Doors crowd can divert the conversation long enough until we forget and nothing gets done.

[schuss]

A school that charges 20k per kid can afford a competent security guard. I imagine one will be hired if that school can come back from this.

So security is only for private school kids, fuck them public ones?

Also seriously, you aren't even attempting to address all the other things, which shows how ridiculous the "defense" of current gun regs are. I get it, you want your fun pop toy, but as you yourself have pointed out, you're willing to jump through additional hoops/registration to do it, so doing that writ large isn't much of a stretch.

[Bobby Stainless]

Watch her entry video. An armed senior citizen could've shot her climbing though the door. The fact she shot through the doors, alerted many to the threat. Thank God she didn't figure out a way to enter otherwise.

[The AD]

The argument with Uvalde is the Police were outgunned. Constant goal post changing with you people.

Are you fucking kidding? You must be.

[skaredshtles]

Watch her entry video. An armed senior citizen could've shot her climbing though the door. The fact she shot through the doors, alerted many to the threat. Thank God she didn't figure out a way to enter otherwise.

Maybe we could start finding volunteer senior citizens to arm themselves and sit at every door in every school.

It could work...