If only there was something we could do...

**Peruvian** · 06-20-2022, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by Bobby Stainless

Lovely night last night. Not sure why people think they need a gun for protection...

What would owning a gun do in a “shots fired” scenario? Without further clarification that could simply be calls to report the sound of gun fire from blocks away.

Maybe most importantly, the types of guns assumed to be best for home safety are often the worst. Very few people have decent accuracy with a hand gun. When combined with fear and adrenaline, accuracy goes down.

I’ve argued for years that the best home security firearm is a pump action shotgun. If you hear someone breaking in, rack that fucker and let them know you have a shotgun. If the intruder persists, blast one in the air out the window. If for some reason that methhead just keeps coming, you don’t need to be all
that accurate to stop them in their tracks.

You may also note that there are not a lot of mass killings with a shotgun used as the primary weapon. Which is nice.

**MTT** · 06-20-2022, 01:05 PM

Nice to see the experts weigh in

OMG. !!

**SumJongGuy** · 06-20-2022, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by Bobby Stainless

Lovely night last night. Not sure why people think they need a gun for protection...

Egg meet chicken. Those guns used in that sideshow came from good guys afraid of that shit not properly securing their firearms and thus causing the exact shitshow they were afraid of. It's their/your fault this shit is happening more and more..

**XXX-er** · 06-20-2022, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by Peruvian

I’ve argued for years that the best home security firearm is a pump action shotgun. If you hear someone breaking in, rack that fucker and let them know you have a shotgun. If the intruder persists, blast one in the air out the window. If for some reason that methhead just keeps coming, you don’t need to be all
that accurate to stop them in their tracks.

You may also note that there are not a lot of mass killings with a shotgun used as the primary weapon. Which is nice.

A buddy of mine bought the defender for bear protection up here in Narthern BC there are a fair amount of them carried up here by forestry types

he said he took it out into a field to test fire and missed an old stove from 40 ft so he went back and bought the folding stock

**Bobby Stainless** · 06-20-2022, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by Peruvian

the best home security...is a

**Peruvian** · 06-20-2022, 01:33 PM

I hear you, Bobby. There are a ton of non-firearm options that are WAY better than any gun for preventing a break-in. Shit, defensive landscaping and even fake security camera signs have shown to be extremely effective.

I'm just putting the argument out there that most folks aren't quick draw McGraw and that AKs are not really the best option for home security. If that's the case, there is little benefit to the average person to have them in their home other than to get their rocks off.

**dunfree** · 06-20-2022, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Peruvian

I hear you, Bobby. There are a ton of non-firearm options that are WAY better than any gun for preventing a break-in. Shit, defensive landscaping and even fake security camera signs have shown to be extremely effective.

I'm just putting the argument out there that most folks aren't quick draw McGraw and that AKs are not really the best option for home security. If that's the case, there is little benefit to the average person to have them in their home other than to get their rocks off.

bobby needs his comfort guns that he can hug and make him feel safe and secure

**Diamond Joe** · 06-20-2022, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by Peruvian

If you hear someone breaking in, rack that fucker and let them know you have a shotgun.

...and also let them know your position thus giving away your single greatest tactical advantage. No thanks

**Peruvian** · 06-20-2022, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Diamond Joe

...and also let them know your position thus giving away your single greatest tactical advantage. No thanks

We are discussing a home break in, not an alley by alley fire fight in Aleppo.

**::: :::** · 06-20-2022, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by Peruvian

We are discussing a home break in, not an alley by alley fire fight in Aleppo.

It depends if you really, really, really want to finally get an opportunity to shoot someone…

**Bobby Stainless** · 06-20-2022, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by dunfree

bobby needs his comfort guns that he can hug and make him feel safe and secure

I prefer the term "therapy gun".

Please be considerate of the proper terminology.

**dunfree** · 06-20-2022, 02:57 PM

It’s a prosthetic penis so you can identify as a he, is that respectful enough? Now go sell the underbody coat to grandma so you don’t get stuck with the steaknives at month end Bobby silverspoon

**Bobby Stainless** · 06-20-2022, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by dunfree

It’s a prosthetic penis so you can identify as a he, is that respectful enough? Now go sell the underbody coat to grandma so you don’t get stuck with the steaknives at month end Bobby silverspoon

I make more money than you do. Lol.

**dunfree** · 06-20-2022, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by Bobby Stainless

I make more money than you do. Lol.

and here you are getting in bitch fights with randos, Bobby lsd, lol. Goddamn does it feel good to watch a rich bitch waste his expensive time.

**old_newguy** · 06-20-2022, 03:42 PM

The best part about Bobby being involved in a thread like this is that you can predict almost exactly how it will play out: the lonely loser showing off his money and toys and bragging about his great life and his contribution to the TGR community as he compulsively posts every few minutes gaslighting and trolling people who are concerned about kids getting shot in schools on some backwater ski forum.

Go take a look at any other gun control related thread he has been in, same trajectory.

What a life.

**Bunion 2020** · 06-20-2022, 03:49 PM

Fuck the GOP.

**SumJongGuy** · 06-20-2022, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by old_newguy

The best part about Bobby being involved in a thread like this is that you can predict almost exactly how it will play out: the lonely loser showing off his money and toys and bragging about his great life and his contribution to the TGR community as he compulsively posts every few minutes gaslighting and trolling people who are concerned about kids getting shot in schools on some backwater ski forum.

Go take a look at any other gun control related thread he has been in, same trajectory.

What a life.

After all the false equivalency whataboutism and cherry picked scenarios are debunked and it's irrefutable that more guns does indeed equal more crime and death It always ends with " bla bla bla IT'S MUH RAWT bla bla bla.."

This is why the GQP will never engage in a two sided debate about meaningful gun regulation. They have no data or anything to support their narrative. NONE!

**jfost** · 06-20-2022, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by SumJongGuy

After all the false equivalency whataboutism and cherry picked scenarios are debunked and it's irrefutable that more guns does indeed equal more crime and death It always ends with " bla bla bla IT'S MUH RAWT bla bla bla.."

What if it is that simple?

**Bobby Stainless** · 06-20-2022, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by dunfree

and here you are getting in bitch fights with randos, Bobby lsd, lol. Goddamn does it feel good to watch a rich bitch waste his expensive time.

Actually I come up with viable solutions while you and the boys have mental breakdowns over my responses.

If we are being honest.

Originally Posted by old_newguy

The best part about Bobby being involved in a thread like this is that you can predict almost exactly how it will play out: the lonely loser showing off his money and toys and bragging about his great life and his contribution to the TGR community as he compulsively posts every few minutes gaslighting and trolling people who are concerned about kids getting shot in schools on some backwater ski forum.

Go take a look at any other gun control related thread he has been in, same trajectory.

What a life.

One of the boys.

**SumJongGuy** · 06-20-2022, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by jfost

What if it is that simple?

Just like it was Pence's right and authority to make Trump President again? Read the ENTIRE text of the 2nd A. Heller was horrifically wrongly decided. It's that simple that folks don't have the individual right to be their own individual unsupervised "well regulated militia".

**schuss** · 06-20-2022, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Bobby Stainless

I make more money than you do. Lol.

That doesn't mean shit. Plenty of useless people make lots of money.

**Bobby Stainless** · 06-20-2022, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by schuss

That doesn't mean shit. Plenty of useless people make lots of money.

If you have enough balls to talk shit about selling cars... then you have enough balls to realize I make more money off one car than he does all month.

"Mr. Treehorn draws a lot of water in this town. You don't draw shit Lebowski..."

I don't know if that's right or wrong, but I definitely don't work as hard for my money as Dunfee does. At the end of the day... That's called intelligence.

**Core Shot** · 06-20-2022, 05:59 PM

This thread makes me want to buy more guns

**Adolf Allerbush** · 06-20-2022, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by Bobby Stainless

I make more money than you do. Lol.

LOL. If nothing else, you are consistent. My guess is you do ok financially but probably middle of the pack relative to other TGR posters. Hence the need to state in multiple threads that you make a ton of money.

**Conundrum** · 06-20-2022, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Bobby Stainless

If you have enough balls to talk shit about selling cars... then you have enough balls to realize I make more money off one car than he does all month.

"Mr. Treehorn draws a lot of water in this town. You don't draw shit Lebowski..."

I don't know if that's right or wrong, but I definitely don't work as hard for my money as Dunfee does. At the end of the day... That's called intelligence.

I guess if you judge your value and worth by $ then sure. And you indisputably deserve the company that it buys you.