View Poll Results: What should we do?
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Nothing, Cat is out of the bag and this is the cost of our "freedom"
16 10.26% -
Prison Time for gun owners who lose or have their gun stolen
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Background checks and a waiting period for 100% of transactions
119 76.28% -
No semiautomatic anythings...
60 38.46% -
Tax gun sales with additional fee to go to mental health
70 44.87% -
Register ALL firearms and require insurance (car analogy)
101 64.74%
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05-26-2022, 04:01 AM #476
Unless there is a murder charge with a death penalty for shitty parenting, nothing will change.
Is it radix panax notoginseng? - splat
This is like hanging yourself but the rope breaks. - DTM
Dude Listen to mtm. He's a marriage counselor at burning man. - subtle plague
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05-26-2022, 04:32 AM #477Registered User
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The data from other places is clear about what kind of solution would work, kinda like with health care. Unfortunately, there's roughly zero chance of the US doing something just because we've proved empirically that our way of doing it kills a lot more people than the ways that other countries do things.
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05-26-2022, 04:33 AM #478
seems to be working at courthouses across the country -
in multiple posts yesterday, I repeated clearly, I am promoting changing facilities design and operation, Not staffing schools with armed guards ;
I support gun regulation too -
citizens don't need assault weapons ( nor access to assault weapons). ;
I'll look back dunfree - what solution are you advocating (?)
gun control (?)
how has that worked over the last 23 years --
mental health (?)
we seem to be at a point where people are willing to talk about mental health - and talking about anything, changes nothing.
... so I went back three pages, dunfree - lots of sniping, no ideas -
' great values are we teaching ten year olds! Is it worth trying!? '
was a personal favorite. Thank you.
armed guards ? no.
Safer designs And citizen involvement --
and you keep sniping from you keypad.
I hope you have a great day. skiJ
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05-26-2022, 04:37 AM #479
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05-26-2022, 05:16 AM #480
Don't forget about the Parkland cop who ran away when he heard shots. More police are less than useless as they'll eat up funds meant for teaching and at least a few will assault students for racist/sexist reasons.
The GOP has systematically blocked research, computerization of records and any attempts to improve the situation. There's increasingly high piles of dead kids and adults as a result of nothing being done and nothing will change as long as states like Texas keep pulling the lever for them.
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05-26-2022, 05:27 AM #481"I don't pretend to have all the answers, and I think there's something to be said for that" -One For The Road
Brain dead and made of money.
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05-26-2022, 05:29 AM #482
If only there was something we could do...
WHAtAbOuT the Va TeCH sHoOtER?
The only sensible thing you’ve ever said is a Class 3 designation for ARs and other high powered rifle.
Class 3 designation for ARs and similiar firearms. Federal, State, Local registry for ALL firearms to be transferred with sale of firearm, jail time and fines for not reporting stolen/lost firearms. Insurance requirement for ALL firearms.
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05-26-2022, 05:31 AM #483
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05-26-2022, 05:33 AM #484
Well he used a handgun. Handguns kill more people by an extremely large margin.
I'm not sure if he means a 5 shot pistol or not. Even still, it's really easy to change a mag.
Regardless. The VA Tech shooter killed many more with a 9mm handgun.
Most people are buying AR15 pistols anyhow."I don't pretend to have all the answers, and I think there's something to be said for that" -One For The Road
Brain dead and made of money.
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05-26-2022, 05:34 AM #485
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05-26-2022, 05:35 AM #486
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05-26-2022, 05:37 AM #487
agreed, a start at least....not everyone will be happy but concessions have to be made by either side if we want to improve the current process for gun ownership. or as you said - nothing will change......and unfortunately i think that's where we're headed. egos over regulations.
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05-26-2022, 05:38 AM #488
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05-26-2022, 05:40 AM #489"I don't pretend to have all the answers, and I think there's something to be said for that" -One For The Road
Brain dead and made of money.
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05-26-2022, 05:46 AM #490
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05-26-2022, 05:48 AM #491
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05-26-2022, 05:50 AM #492"I don't pretend to have all the answers, and I think there's something to be said for that" -One For The Road
Brain dead and made of money.
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05-26-2022, 05:51 AM #493
The kid was playing a video called “dead by daylight” that morning. And was making threats online while playing.
Nothing we can do about the games, but they ain’t Castle Wolfenstein.
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05-26-2022, 05:51 AM #494"I don't pretend to have all the answers, and I think there's something to be said for that" -One For The Road
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05-26-2022, 05:53 AM #495Registered User
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Magazine size limits seem to make sense from a lot of perspectives, but IMO that cat is out of the bag. Magazines are relatively simple to manufacture, and I'm fairly sure you can 3D print them (or at least most of one) at this point. Trying to restrict access to standard military-style and larger magazines (I'm not willing to call a 30-round magazine "large capacity" when that's the standard for the class of firearm) would, again IMO, only affect the most by the book owners and provide the possibility of additional charges when one of the more radical types got arrested for something else.
Case in point: Vermont banned the sale or import to the state of rifle magazines over 10 rounds, and to date, the only widely reported case where they enforced the law was against a white supremacist who was also facing other charges for threatening, and they were able to get witnesses to discuss his trip out of state to buy the magazines.
I can't speak to the veracity of the suggestion, but I've also seen it said that in the event reloading becomes too hard, it's also possible to carry a bunch of revolvers and just keep switching guns. That sounds plausible to me.
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05-26-2022, 05:54 AM #496
Semi and obviously full auto everything is probably not "necessary" for any non LEO individual who isn't prepping for a civil war. They're fun and certainly essential for law enforcement though. The notion of personal sidearms, even not semi auto is another can of worms. Probably only "necessary" for folks who have a dangerous job like bounty hunter or repo .. and folks who lave a legit violent stalker restraining order .
But as for everyone else.. Plenty of folks are just legit scared of strangers (potential criminals, assailants) and afraid to go out in the real world without a gun.. Some are on a power trip, embolden to no longer be nice to strangers and speak their minds so to speak.. i.e. bullies.. How do we tell them apart?Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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05-26-2022, 05:56 AM #497
I've waited 13 months for this. (short barreled rifle)
I could've bought this the same day. (pistol)
Go ATF!"I don't pretend to have all the answers, and I think there's something to be said for that" -One For The Road
Brain dead and made of money.
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05-26-2022, 05:59 AM #498
If only there was something we could do...
They play video games and then they can walk in and buy the same gun.
My son does not care for guns, because I know so many homes have guns I took him to the range and taught him how to safety check etc. glad I did. But from the games, he knew every make and model there.
My best crazy gun story. During Covid I walked into a gun store with a legit crack head at the same time. A sales person asked her if he could help her and she pulled out s pistol, holding it with two fingers and said “I need bullets for this” I almost hit the dirt. She probably paid $50 for it 15 min before.
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05-26-2022, 06:01 AM #499
it’s true though. Just like Bobby stupids need to compensate and post dick pics in this thread
you seem to be convinced that your approach is rational, but to most of the world it looks insane.
and quite frankly if someone thinks society has decayed since the 1940s they are a fucking fool.
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05-26-2022, 06:02 AM #500"I don't pretend to have all the answers, and I think there's something to be said for that" -One For The Road
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