View Poll Results: What should we do?
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Nothing, Cat is out of the bag and this is the cost of our "freedom"
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Prison Time for gun owners who lose or have their gun stolen
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Background checks and a waiting period for 100% of transactions
119 76.28% -
No semiautomatic anythings...
60 38.46% -
Tax gun sales with additional fee to go to mental health
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Register ALL firearms and require insurance (car analogy)
101 64.74%
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05-26-2022, 01:15 PM #776Registered User
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05-26-2022, 01:17 PM #777
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05-26-2022, 01:17 PM #778
No Gravy SEALs in Oz then or now AFAIK. No one else fetishizes guns like Americans do. Well, maybe the Taliban.
It hangs a lot lower than mass confiscation.
I'm just stating a fact. The Trump admin banned bump stocks and there was almost no pushback from the right. If Obama had done the same right-wing media would have been apoplectic.
I think I'm right, but I wish I was wrong. Shit's fucked and not getting better. This country fetishizes guns in a way that is deeply disturbing.
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05-26-2022, 01:17 PM #779
Has anyone proposed widespread confiscation? Buybacks are not confiscation.
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05-26-2022, 01:18 PM #780
More than 1/3 of the US has a gun. Quit being so gullible.
People with illegal firearms aren't offering up that information.
The people that make guns out of crap and go buy new ones are really winning there.
https://investortimes.com/freedomout...hase-new-ones/"I don't pretend to have all the answers, and I think there's something to be said for that" -One For The Road
Brain dead and made of money.
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05-26-2022, 01:19 PM #781
How many democrat lawmakers would vote to ban semi auto handguns and pump action shotguns? Not many.
All I hear is ban assault weapons but I respect the American sportsman horseshit.
Either you want an Australian type turn in, or you’re just playing politics.
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05-26-2022, 01:19 PM #782
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05-26-2022, 01:20 PM #783
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05-26-2022, 01:21 PM #784
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05-26-2022, 01:22 PM #785Hucked to flat once
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It’s actually about 5% and growing with 1 in 5 of every new gun sell being a high capacity mag, semi auto, black gun. There’s an estimated 20 mil of them in the US. I personally enjoy shooting bolt actions for accuracy more. They are not great for hunting big game and not great for home defense for many situations. 20 mil of a gun that is good for shooting coyotes, pigs, and people seems like a lot.
I guess to some they look cool and they can be good for adults who like playing with legos but don’t want their buddies knowing they play with legos.
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05-26-2022, 01:23 PM #786
I think gun culture changed away from the hunting culture a lot of us grew up with. It's more 'tactical' and militaristic revolving around personal defense where the answer to mass shootings is less restrictions, not more restrictions:
None of them see a connection between the weapons they own and the shootings at Sandy Hook, San Bernardino, Aurora, Orlando, Las Vegas, Parkland. They see mug shots of James Holmes, Omar Mateen, Stephen Paddock, Nikolas Cruz — “crazier than a shithouse rat,” they say. “If it hadn’t been that rifle, he’d have done it with something else.” They fear that what starts as an assault-weapons ban will snowball into an attack on everything in the safe. I don’t believe that politicians are going to ban ordinary guns or overturn the Second Amendment, but I understand their reasoning because I understand what’s at stake. I think about that boy picking up that AR in Cabela’s, and I’m torn between the culture I grew up with and how that culture has devolved. There are changes I know must come, changes to what types of firearms line the shelves and to the background checks and ownership requirements needed to carry one out the door. And there is an unrelenting fear of what could be lost — a subsistence culture already threatened by the loss of public land, rising costs and a widening rural-urban divide; the right of individuals to protect their own lives and the lives of their families.
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05-26-2022, 01:23 PM #787
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05-26-2022, 01:23 PM #788
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05-26-2022, 01:23 PM #789
Yep.
If it's mandatory, which Australia's program was, it's confiscation.
I never said there wasn't opposition. I do think it's fair to say that on average Australian gun owners did/do not have an obsession with guns on par with what a significant portion of the US population has
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05-26-2022, 01:25 PM #790
Perfect should not be the enemy of better. If we could bust down the dam of "absolutely no federal gun regulation ever" and the horseshit research/data restrictions that would be incredibly helpful.
I'd rather have 0 shootings, but if my other choices are 2 and 50, I know what I'm picking.
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05-26-2022, 01:25 PM #791
OK adding dunfree and leroy to my ignore should make this thread considerably less unpleasant for the same reason that ignoring Bunny and teletech made the Ukraine/COVID threads readable. I should probably ignore SJG for the same reason as stuckathuntermtn: so dumb that their idiocy rubs off on their reader.
Originally Posted by blurred
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05-26-2022, 01:25 PM #792
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05-26-2022, 01:27 PM #793
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05-26-2022, 01:27 PM #794
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05-26-2022, 01:28 PM #795
see yours, Summit - and we now have multiple incidents where what you claim to be revised, current training is not what's happening.
There are aspects of interpretation - does a mobile assailant qualify as an active shooter to be 'attacked' .
I still cannot abide by the school safety officer leaving school ground instead of LOCKing-DOWN the school with an assailant in the neighborhood...
the school's "plan" is not a plan - it is an administrator's outline.
sorry. enough. tj
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05-26-2022, 01:30 PM #796
But the fact you think this has to do with trump and his “all powerful” hand over people…he didn’t and does not have this power. But people talk as if he does.
Presidents are just figure heads.
trump simply had a big fuggin mouth, that’s all. The power he supposedly has is from people fluffing him up. If people would just stop the idolization he’d be a past headline.
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05-26-2022, 01:31 PM #797
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05-26-2022, 01:31 PM #798
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05-26-2022, 01:33 PM #799
Not really tracking what the point of this discussion that you and Conundrum are having. Is the idea that we do more with the 5% or 10% of weapons classified as assault style weapons with the hopes that this reduces some of the mass shooting events? Additionally, is the point you two are making that this represents a smaller number of weapons to deal with so it may be feasible?
Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that
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05-26-2022, 01:34 PM #800Hucked to flat once
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What would the Firearm Industry Trade Association know about the number of modern sporting rifles in the US?
Since 1990, there are an estimated 19.8 million Modern Sporting Rifles (MSRs) in circulation today.
Doesn’t “modern sporting rifle” make them sound pretty cool and useful for sports stuff?
And other than shooting many people quickly, or I guess multiple shots at one target because you can’t shoot for shit, what’s a semi-auto, 30 rd mag, suppressed 300blk SBR going to do that that my 26” barrel 3 rd bolt action 300 WM can’t?
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