View Poll Results: What should we do?

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  • Nothing, Cat is out of the bag and this is the cost of our "freedom"

    16 10.26%
  • Prison Time for gun owners who lose or have their gun stolen

    30 19.23%
  • Background checks and a waiting period for 100% of transactions

    119 76.28%
  • No semiautomatic anythings...

    60 38.46%
  • Tax gun sales with additional fee to go to mental health

    70 44.87%
  • Register ALL firearms and require insurance (car analogy)

    101 64.74%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    And bump stocks were legal until 2019 when they were banned by **checks notes** the Trump admin. Funny how that ban barely caused a stir among the 2A crowd.
    Binary trigger is more useful than bump stock for rapid controlled fire. And even then, it's not full auto.

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    Because so many school shooters are either in school or just out of school themselves it seems like lockdown drills, locking doors, or hardening entrances essentially becomes ‘taking off your shoes in airport security.’ An 18 year old shooter had lockdown drills growing up. They've been through school drills as kids. They know the entry procedures, the weak spots and the hiding places.

    If anything security procedures and drills are giving some of them ideas, something to fantasize about.

    In this the most recent shooting where the shooter reportedly 'barricaded' himself inside a classroom the so called barricade was quite possibly a heavy steel door with a lock on the inside specifically designed to keep an active shooter out. As a result it took longer to breach the classroom because authorities couldn't kick the door in and instead had to locate a key.

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    Probably score some free guns in the cars in the parking lots during tRumps NRA convention appearance: https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2022/...tail=emaildkre

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater View Post
    Like we got rid drugs in the 80s and 90s?

    This is not a realistic solution. Not even close.
    Guns are lot harder to illicitly manufacture and smuggle than drugs. But, I am generally inclined to agree that it's not a realistic solution.

    It would be nice if we could apply the same "Responsible law-abiding citizens should not be punished because of the actions of a miniscule minority of stupid and/or crazy people" gun logic to drugs, though. At least that would be intellectually consistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Stainless View Post
    Im well aware of what it takes to own a Pre-86 machine gun. They cost upwards of 30k-150k. I don't think transferable machine guns are an issue.
    Do you ride a unicycle much?
    Because your backpedaling without owning your fail is awesome.

    You must be in sales.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoooR View Post
    And how often outside of Michael Mann movies are those autos actually used to commit a crime? I don't "get" the gun enthusiasts, but the school shooters are angsty teenagers that were able to buy semi-autos super easy. I think making those as hard to get as autos would be a great step.
    Fully agreed. I'm not overly concerned with additional restrictions on autos; I was just responding to B.S. who was implying that autos are already banned. If semi-autos had the same restrictions as full autos, we'd be in better shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuntmonkey View Post
    Turns out the cops didn't follow him in. The started tasing parents trying to enter.

    https://youtu.be/dyXtymq-A6w
    That is a terrible look for the police.

    So is the fact that a bunch of overweight officers in body armor with AR-15s standing around threatening the parents with tazers instead of what they should be doing: breaching the school, neutralizing the shooter to stop the slaughter, and getting medical care to the dying children.

    Untrained unarmed parents willing to go up against a gunman while trained, armed, and armored cops, charged with defending the public, stop the parents instead of the gunman!

    Fucking cowards!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuntmonkey View Post
    Turns out the cops didn't follow him in. The started tasing parents trying to enter.

    https://youtu.be/dyXtymq-A6w
    What in the actual fuck is this?!?!?!

    Easy! Easy! Folks! Easy, take it easy, he’ll run out of ammo or get bored with the killing of people pretty soon. Just let it run it’s course. Don’t pay attention to him while he’s throwing a tantrum, that’s what he wants.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater View Post
    Like we got rid drugs in the 80s and 90s?

    This is not a realistic solution. Not even close.
    Maybe we try to do what Australia did in response to mass shootings: https://fortune.com/2018/02/20/austr...ntrol-success/

    Why is it possible for other countries to fix their gun violence issues, mostly, but we act like it's impossible in the US? That's not necessarily for you specifically...but just a question to the TGR masses.
    Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush View Post
    Maybe we try to do what Australia did in response to mass shootings: https://fortune.com/2018/02/20/austr...ntrol-success/

    Why is it possible for other countries to fix their gun violence issues, mostly, but we act like it's impossible in the US? That's not necessarily for you specifically...but just a question to the TGR masses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Stainless View Post
    Was locking the doors included in "hardening" the schools?
    Can locked doors be unlocked? Maybe chain ‘em shut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    Can locked doors be unlocked? Maybe chain ‘em shut.
    It is not like the crazed gunman was going to pick the locks.

    You have gone from shrill to obtuse, and not just in this thread. It has be especially bad lately. You are not quite to leroy levels but you are trying very very hard. It is sad, because unlike SJG, you are not mentally handicapped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    You have gone from shrill to obtuse.

    It is not like the crazed gunman was going to pick the locks.
    Couldn't she just shoot them off?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MultiVerse View Post
    Because so many school shooters are either in school or just out of school themselves it seems like lockdown drills, locking doors, or hardening entrances essentially becomes ‘taking off your shoes in airport security.’ An 18 year old shooter had lockdown drills growing up. They've been through school drills as kids. They know the entry procedures, the weak spots and the hiding places.

    If anything security procedures and drills are giving some of them ideas, something to fantasize about.

    In this the most recent shooting where the shooter reportedly 'barricaded' himself inside a classroom the so called barricade was quite possibly a heavy steel door with a lock on the inside specifically designed to keep an active shooter out. As a result it took longer to breach the classroom because authorities couldn't kick the door in and instead had to locate a key.
    This is a really good point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    Couldn't she just shoot them off?
    She? I'm pretty sure that was a 4chan hoax.

    Shooting locks doesn't work like in the movies.

    CBP's tactical team couldn't breach the classroom door and they have special shotgun breaching rounds and battering rams that they apparently left behind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    She? I'm pretty sure that was a 4chan hoax.
    Have you had your sense of humor surgically removed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by leroy jenkins View Post
    The sheriffs departments are the ones who sued to have the unenforceable mag ban overturned in Co. They failed, now you've got this weird ass situation where stores openly sell technically illegal mags and everyone looks the other way because they never wanted to enforce it in the first place and it was just soem sort of experiment by the national Dem party.

    Should have just kept them legal the current situation is not an improvement.
    that is the craziest rationalization I have read yet

    fucktards won't enforce the law - so bad law

    no it's bad fucktards

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    She? I'm pretty sure that was a 4chan hoax.

    Shooting locks doesn't work like in the movies.

    CBP's tactical team couldn't breach the classroom door and they have special breaching rounds and battering rams.
    Your sarcasm meter is still dysfunctional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    She? I'm pretty sure that was a 4chan hoax.
    We know it was a hoax because women don't do this kind of thing.

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    For someone who doesn't absorb any news because it's too mentally difficult for him to do so...Leroy sure has a lot of opinions and alleged stats that he throws around to make his arguments.
    Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush View Post
    For someone who doesn't absorb any news because it's too mentally difficult for him to do so Leroy has a lot of opinions and alleged stats that he throws around to make his arguments.
    30 pages into the thread and hasn't bothered to get the basic facts of how this went down... tracks with his namesake and par for the course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    That is a terrible look for the police.

    So is the fact that a bunch of overweight officers in body armor with AR-15s standing around threatening the parents with tazers instead of what they should be doing: breaching the school, neutralizing the shooter to stop the slaughter, and getting medical care to the dying children.

    Untrained unarmed parents willing to go up against a gunman while trained, armed, and armored cops, charged with defending the public, stop the parents instead of the gunman!

    Fucking cowards!!!
    See, this is why everyone needs to carry a gun. To protect us from state tyranny. If those parents had guns, they could have shot the deputies.

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    The school district had a detailed plan to harden the schools. Didn't seem to work well...

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZF2...NQwNyVsV0/view

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    It is not like the crazed gunman was going to pick the locks.
    That was a classroom door that was locked (some have even been hardened!), which at most schools, is a different beast than the emergency exit doors that are often much easier to open. Hardening schools is a difficult thing for many that will require new building with different architectural aims, perhaps dramatically so. I’m pretty sure I know all of the schools at least one person in this thread would have gone too contemporaneously and none were armored even though they claim so.

    shove your smug pompous rationality up your ass, I was pointing out the stupidity of Bobby stupid, the definition of tgr tryhard dumbfuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    That is a terrible look for the police.

    So is the fact that a bunch of overweight officers in body armor with AR-15s standing around threatening the parents with tazers instead of what they should be doing: breaching the school, neutralizing the shooter to stop the slaughter, and getting medical care to the dying children.

    Untrained unarmed parents willing to go up against a gunman while trained, armed, and armored cops, charged with defending the public, stop the parents instead of the gunman!

    Fucking cowards!!!
    It does seem like a cluster fuck

    but then again - it is tex-ass

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