View Poll Results: What should we do?
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Nothing, Cat is out of the bag and this is the cost of our "freedom"
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Prison Time for gun owners who lose or have their gun stolen
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Background checks and a waiting period for 100% of transactions
119 76.28% -
No semiautomatic anythings...
60 38.46% -
Tax gun sales with additional fee to go to mental health
70 44.87% -
Register ALL firearms and require insurance (car analogy)
101 64.74%
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06-09-2022, 11:51 AM #2151
So you're saying more people die from guns in places where more people live? No shit.
Per capita death rate from firearms doesn't actually correlate that well with highly populous states. It (negatively) correlates pretty well with restrictions on gun ownership though.
Firearm deaths per 100k people: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/s...ty/firearm.htm
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06-09-2022, 12:00 PM #2152
Yep, and as I pointed out - every time they do a sourcing check on guns used in crimes in Chicago, over half are from more permissive states like Mississippi, Indiana and others because local restrictions make it harder. If Chicago is such a big issue, why aren't those same viewers and whatabout posters advocating for changes that prevent Chicago area criminals from getting guns to commit crimes with?
There's some good data and potential solutions here: https://urbanlabs.uchicago.edu/attac...2022+Final.pdf
As he puts it - it's not a violence problem as much as an "arguments with guns" problem that can be solved by earlier interdiction. If you couple that with making it much harder to get guns, then gun violence becomes minor altercations where both walk away alive versus the shitshow we see right now
However, dogma and rhetoric prevent guns from being "part" of the problem, as they are used safely elsewhere, so there's no change. Interstate commerce laws make it laughable to enact stricter laws in any one state if a short drive away it's available with no checks or balances.
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06-09-2022, 12:07 PM #2153
Very interesting discussion (without resulting to name calling, shouting, etc). It also shows that libertarians have no solutions to gun violence and accept that the price of freedom includes dead school children.
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06-09-2022, 12:33 PM #2154
Their pod can be a painful listen. They seem to be convinced of the idea that there is this middle ground all the time and that they have it figured out, which is laughable. Krystal's voice is grating. Sagaar and his libertarian idiocy is just that. almost every discussion devolves into him basically throwing up his hands and saying nothing can be done because xyz reason...in this case he says he doesn't trust the government to regulate guns so we should do nothing. WTF?
Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that
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06-09-2022, 12:54 PM #2155
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06-09-2022, 12:55 PM #2156
I wouldn't say it's "laughable." Like you said, there's certainly spillover from one state to another. But the data still shows that overall, firearm death rates are lower in states with more restrictions.
I'd assume that part of that is because of suicides. I doubt that many people who are looking to shoot themselves are gonna drive to a more permissive state to buy a gun.
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06-09-2022, 01:04 PM #2157
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06-09-2022, 01:08 PM #2158
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06-09-2022, 01:09 PM #2159
It doesn’t matter to him, they were brown for the most part
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06-09-2022, 01:11 PM #2160
For all people or just the white people? Sirhumppingguns doesn’t care about the lesser races
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06-09-2022, 01:20 PM #2161
The maps kinda look like the diabetes belt. Maybe there is a direct connection.
BTW, did my part. My box of P-Mags arrived yesterday.In order to properly convert this thread to a polyasshat thread to more fully enrage the liberal left frequenting here...... (insert latest democratic blunder of your choice).
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06-09-2022, 01:22 PM #2162
Getting ready for antifa?
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06-09-2022, 01:24 PM #2163
Naah, just making sure I have enough mags to run my M-16 and AR's when they be no more. Not much fun to have a full auto with a 10 round mag.
In order to properly convert this thread to a polyasshat thread to more fully enrage the liberal left frequenting here...... (insert latest democratic blunder of your choice).
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06-09-2022, 01:28 PM #2164
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06-09-2022, 01:28 PM #2165
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06-09-2022, 01:28 PM #2166“I tell you, we are here on Earth to fart around, and don't let anybody tell you different.”
― Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without a Country
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This is OUR mountain - come join us!
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06-09-2022, 01:30 PM #2167
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06-09-2022, 01:30 PM #2168
Owning the libs by letting everyone know you’re a scared dork.
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06-09-2022, 02:02 PM #2169
I don't really take issue with Ken's autos. Those things are hard to get, and are therefore expensive. You don't see much in the way of criminal activity with M16's. As Jim Jefferies said in the clip that was posted earlier, if you can afford $30,000 for an M16, you probably don't need to go commit crimes to enrich yourself.
We just need to make the semi-autos similarly expensive. Bolt action hunting rifles can stay affordable.
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06-09-2022, 02:08 PM #2170In order to properly convert this thread to a polyasshat thread to more fully enrage the liberal left frequenting here...... (insert latest democratic blunder of your choice).
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06-09-2022, 02:16 PM #2171
If only there was something we could do...
If he actually has an M-16 it’s already registered and the BATF knows he has it. The real question is why he has it, it’s prohibitively expensive to shoot full auto firearms. Like it would likely be a few hundred dollars for a short range session. So it’s more likely that he just likes to fondle it and think about how powerful it makes him.
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06-09-2022, 02:18 PM #2172
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06-09-2022, 02:21 PM #2173
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06-09-2022, 02:27 PM #2174
Guns don't need to be "BANNED!!!yikes!!!". They need to be in the hands of a regulated militia. So keep your guns. Just register all guns, accessories and ammo to use at the range to keep the killing skilz sharp. And make body armor illegal to wear in public again.
For the anti government 2A nuts that think they need unregistered firepower, keep it in the basement and no one will care.Seeker of Truth. Dispenser of Wisdom. Protector of the Weak. Avenger of Evil.
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06-09-2022, 02:30 PM #2175In order to properly convert this thread to a polyasshat thread to more fully enrage the liberal left frequenting here...... (insert latest democratic blunder of your choice).
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