View Poll Results: What should we do?
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Nothing, Cat is out of the bag and this is the cost of our "freedom"
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Prison Time for gun owners who lose or have their gun stolen
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Background checks and a waiting period for 100% of transactions
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No semiautomatic anythings...
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Tax gun sales with additional fee to go to mental health
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Register ALL firearms and require insurance (car analogy)
101 64.74%
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06-14-2022, 09:13 AM #2451Hucked to flat once
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06-14-2022, 09:25 AM #2452Hunting kicks ass.
Chicks dig Labs.
I'll keep my job, my money and my guns and you can keep the change.
From my cold dead hands.
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06-14-2022, 09:25 AM #2453Seeker of Truth. Dispenser of Wisdom. Protector of the Weak. Avenger of Evil.
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06-14-2022, 09:36 AM #2455Registered User
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Can a flag draped gun loving insurrectionist prepper get away with styling in a high end armored Toyota if they put enough blue lives matter and punisher stickers on it?
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06-14-2022, 09:45 AM #2456Hucked to flat once
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Agree and disagree. And I thought about that. Revolvers can be SA or SA/DA. I’m not aware of any revolver that is semi-auto. One could argue that DA is similar but it doesn’t have a mechanism to reduce recoil by using the energy to chamber another round so harder to shoot accurately quickly unless you practice A LOT. Plus, not a ton of high cap revolvers and they take longer to reload unless once again, one practices a lot.
Shotguns-yes, semi autos exist and are popular. You include those and you might lose the hunting crowd. Most semi auto scatters are capped at three to five rounds. Sure, there are some assault designs but not that common. They also lack range and won’t go through walls and body armor unless using specific less common ammo. Maybe if we can get a handle on the weapons we were originally talking about, semi auto shotguns become the new mass shooting weapon of choice and legislators will then have to do some more legislating.
I know many posters just shout talking points. I’ve thought about this topic a lot and do own guns. I’m not saying Bobby’s ideas are perfect but I have thought about them and try to have a measured response that adds to the conversation. Certainly not saying my thoughts are perfect.
Numerous times upthread, I’ve mentioned that I like Aus and Can’s rules and would comply if enacted here. I was told they are non-starters. I realize the NFA may be a non-starter but it is a brake pump from those two sets of laws.
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06-14-2022, 09:58 AM #2457
Gun and ammo manufacturers send millions to the gun lobby every year. If you're buying the products you're supporting the lobby regardless of NRA membership status.
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06-14-2022, 10:00 AM #2458
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06-14-2022, 10:05 AM #2459Hucked to flat once
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06-14-2022, 10:06 AM #2460
This x1,000,000
Gun culture warriors have proven themselves to be irresponsible with guns time and time again. Unreported “lost” or stolen guns, unsecured weapons in the home. Irresponsible resale. Gun shops in less regulated states irresponsibly funneling firearms to highly regulated states’ citizens. 2a should be repealed on those facts alone.
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06-14-2022, 10:14 AM #2461
SCOTUS redefining 2A back to it's original intent would be nice.
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06-14-2022, 10:16 AM #2462
IMNEO, this is not why nothing ever changes; it's a sideshow.
The reason nothing ever changes is because there is an entrenched side in this issue that is adamant that nothing change. Compromise isn't possible for them ["that is a non-starter"; "shall not be infringed"; etc], only diversion ["mental health"; "hardening targets"; "good guy with a gun"; etc].
The bill that is getting press right now is a short-armed effort that only came about because even gun people are embarrassed by the fiascos of increasing gun violence...they want to appear as if they are doing something to help society as long as it doesn't change gun access.
That is why nothing changes.
What is galling is that they will unashamedly point to this minimal bill after the next few shootings & say "See? Regulations don't work..."
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06-14-2022, 10:25 AM #2463
No, I don't think they care. Today Rangers seem to be a dime a dozen. Ranger tab is a relatively safe career move. WWII Rangers volunteered to die. And I didn't "dodge" the draft. Dad kept finding colleges that would accept my dumb ass. I wonder why? Maybe the shrapnel he still carried itched.
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06-14-2022, 10:25 AM #2464
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06-14-2022, 10:30 AM #2465
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06-14-2022, 10:34 AM #2466
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06-14-2022, 10:37 AM #2467
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06-14-2022, 10:41 AM #2468
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06-14-2022, 10:42 AM #2469
I want a cannon.
Also if kids today had bottle-rocket and Roman candle fights. They might not be so mental.
You're gonna stand there, ownin' a fireworks stand, and tell me you don't have no whistlin' bungholes, no spleen splitters, whisker biscuits, honkey lighters, hoosker doos, hoosker don'ts, cherry bombs, nipsy daisers, with or without the scooter stick, or one single whistlin' kitty chaser?
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06-14-2022, 10:46 AM #2470Hucked to flat once
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Agreed. We’re in an echo chamber. Same people, including me, keep saying the stuff and arguing on repeat. Some idealistic, some all or nothing, some compromise, and a lot partisan camping. Shit isn’t going to change here or nationally. We’re going to have a gun problem for a long time.
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06-14-2022, 10:49 AM #2471
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06-14-2022, 10:53 AM #2472
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06-14-2022, 11:07 AM #2473
If you were at such odds against the 1a or the 4a, it would be much the same amigo. Lobbies would form, political hay would be made...people against the 1a and 4a would despair over time, and begin to truly hate America and all that she stands for... Some will go so far as to dash trays of chicken tendies from their mothers' hands in their angst...
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06-14-2022, 11:11 AM #2474
I think a lot of them do but, yeah, not to the same extent.
It's just that some of the others like racial discrimination, gay rights or taxes don't actually end peoples lives. I'd argue that abortion doesn't either.
The weird thing about the lack of compromise regarding 2a is that the anti gun segment has granted a lot of ground and the pro gun hasn't granted anything.
I'd like to see a reinstatement of the 1994 AWB at a minimum, hopefully removing any grandfathering clauses.Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
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06-14-2022, 11:12 AM #2475
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