View Poll Results: What should we do?
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Nothing, Cat is out of the bag and this is the cost of our "freedom"
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Prison Time for gun owners who lose or have their gun stolen
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Background checks and a waiting period for 100% of transactions
119 76.28% -
No semiautomatic anythings...
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Tax gun sales with additional fee to go to mental health
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Register ALL firearms and require insurance (car analogy)
101 64.74%
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11-23-2022, 01:55 PM #3901
Probably better than 50/50 odds you'll end up like Johnny Hurley.
Also, just a general observation not aimed at you specifically, but the people most likely to say they need to carry in case a shooting breaks out also seem to be the ones most likely to say that most gun deaths aren't from mass shootings and even in Freedumbstan statistically you're extremely unlikely to be involved in a mass shooting. So, you're a paranoid skeerdy cat if you're worried about being in a mass shooting, unless that's your justification to carry a gun at all times.Last edited by Dantheman; 11-23-2022 at 02:32 PM.
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11-23-2022, 02:03 PM #3902
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11-23-2022, 02:23 PM #3903
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11-23-2022, 02:28 PM #3904
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11-23-2022, 04:12 PM #3906
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11-23-2022, 04:20 PM #3908
Jesus, that’s the kind of person who doesn’t belong on this earth.
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11-23-2022, 04:20 PM #3909Registered User
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A majority of the people in the US support more gun regulation, but we have a republic, not direct democracy, so the vocal minority that don't can effectively block a lot of legislation that would make sense if you see reducing gun violence as a significant priority (at least at the national level).
If the Democrats had managed to pass significant regulation with majorities in both houses, you'd also have seen more of a rightward swing in the midterms (IMO), along with open hostility towards the implementation of such regulations in red and some purple states; the second amendment and its modern reading is important to a lot of people.
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11-23-2022, 04:31 PM #3910
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11-23-2022, 05:25 PM #3912User
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I’m just going full devil’s advocate since I don’t carry a gun. If you did find yourself in a shooting in a public space, would you want a gun, or no? Do you feel compelled to take precaution against anything else in your life that is statistically unlikely to happen?
Obviously carrying a gun is not the solution to the problem, but it does seem like we are in an arms race to the bottom here.
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11-23-2022, 06:09 PM #3913
And let’s add that 99+% of those strapped in public have next to no training/experience with a mass shooter in a crowded area. I have little confidence in their ability to not make shit worse.
ETA for Z3 - I would not want a weapon in an active shooter situation. The more untrained morons with guns entering the picture, the bigger the chance for one of the “good guys with guns” to get shot by another “good guy”
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11-23-2022, 07:02 PM #3914
People who know the shooter say no way he was "binary" or anything but a violent homophonic nut case. Pretty sure it's his lawyer who just made that shit up on the fly.. Well played, the right wingnuts are all like "" see, ANTIFA ANTIFAANTIFA bla bla bla..."
Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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11-23-2022, 07:02 PM #3915
jbdj - kid had no chance and we have no chance if a POS like that can go buy a gun.
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11-23-2022, 07:06 PM #3916Registered User
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11-24-2022, 10:02 AM #3917
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11-24-2022, 10:15 AM #3918
Yeah. The dad obviously has something going on besides just horrible opinions.
This is why it’s so disgusting that people are promoting hate and conspiracies again trans people for political gains. Most people aren’t going to react violently, but some fucked up people like this can and will.
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11-24-2022, 11:08 AM #3919
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11-25-2022, 07:57 AM #3920
Daily KOS view: https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2022/..._medium=email?
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11-25-2022, 04:24 PM #3921
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...ing-officials/
The gunman who killed six people at a Chesapeake, Va., Walmart on Tuesday night legally purchased the firearm used in the tragedy hours earlier, officials said.
The city of Chesapeake announced on Friday that 31-year-old Andre Bing, who died of a self-inflicted wound before police arrived, legally purchased the 9mm handgun from a local store that morning. Bing had no criminal history.
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11-25-2022, 06:28 PM #3922
^^^ Don’t know how you stop a guy like this. No known mental health or criminal flags…
Maybe a waiting period before you can pick it up…
Would a better mental health system catch/treat him before it got to this?
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11-25-2022, 06:34 PM #3923
If only there was something we could do...
absolutely waiting periods reduce this kind of stuff and suicides.
first result:
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1619896114j'ai des grands instants de lucididididididididi
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11-25-2022, 09:45 PM #3924
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11-26-2022, 10:45 AM #3925
This^^^ study finds a 17% reduction in gun violence occurs in states with waiting periods. That’s like one in six would-be mass killers deterred by the delay.
So even if this mentally ill guy lived in say, Hawaii rather than Virginia, there’s still a roughly 83% chance he would have killed his coworkers after waiting two weeks.
I’m all for waiting periods but we need to be realistic about impact.
Personally I think completion of a firearms safety course would be more effective, esp if trainers are watching for signs of crazy.
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