View Poll Results: What should we do?
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Nothing, Cat is out of the bag and this is the cost of our "freedom"
16 10.26% -
Prison Time for gun owners who lose or have their gun stolen
30 19.23% -
Background checks and a waiting period for 100% of transactions
119 76.28% -
No semiautomatic anythings...
60 38.46% -
Tax gun sales with additional fee to go to mental health
70 44.87% -
Register ALL firearms and require insurance (car analogy)
101 64.74%
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05-26-2022, 04:02 PM #876
Holy shit, what a dumb fucking comment.
My kids are in private school, for the record, and it's a privilege I can now afford, but I'd never in a million years say something like this. Back when I couldn't afford it for my kids I didn't take their education any less serious. JFC.I ski 135 degree chutes switch to the road.
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05-26-2022, 04:02 PM #877
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05-26-2022, 04:03 PM #878
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05-26-2022, 04:06 PM #879
here, true. Nationally gun policy is driven by trolls though. All those Christmas pictures of guns, the cold dead hands, whatever babble at the NRA convention, it’s all culture war performance and there will be no modification or compromise in their position because when they do that it’s admitting defeat. It’s a cleaving issue, not a wedge. They’ve got their little hunk and they gonna hold on.
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05-26-2022, 04:13 PM #880
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05-26-2022, 04:17 PM #881
Spot on. Hence my comments about not trying to change minds but simply working to change who is in power.
Just signed up yesterday to volunteer for the Cortez Masto campaign for Nevada. Winning swing states is important but she's one of the more vulnerable Democratic Senatorial incumbents so equally important to not lose those seats as well (and living nearby I can commit more time). Seemed like a better way to contribute than a bunch of echo chamber social media posts.I ski 135 degree chutes switch to the road.
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05-26-2022, 04:23 PM #882
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05-26-2022, 04:25 PM #883
i feel petty and that I am missing the point but I really hope every cop in a command position gets busted down or fired
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05-26-2022, 04:33 PM #884
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05-26-2022, 05:00 PM #885
Unfortunately it’s all performative. Check in on this thread in 3 months and see what all the participants have been up to towards pushing their side forward.
The anti restriction crowd will have done nothing, because they don’t have to. Maybe some donations made.
The pro restriction crowd will also have done nothing . Sure a few donations will be made, and some letters to senators written, but despite all the current passion it’s no one’s crusade.
And three months later when another elementary school gets shot up we’ll start the thread all over again.
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05-26-2022, 05:03 PM #886Banned
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I think anyone should be able to own most guns provided they aren't a felon, don't have domestic violence convictions (accusations trigger a hearing on if the accused needs to surrender guns until after trial), and/or dont have a history or mental illness (there will be a panel of mental health and gun crime experts that figure out the parameters of this and there can be work arounds for hunting and target shooting if someone is willing to store guns and accompany a person).
All guns must be registered. There will be a grace period where people can take guns to police station (or other established place) and either pay a nominal fee to register them or sell them to be destroyed no questions asked, 200 bucks.
It is a felony to have an unregistered gun after the grace period.
All gun owners need a "gun license". A basic license gets you a basic hunting rifle. Other guns require endorsements and some require additional training beyond a basic dmv style test.
If you want to carry a gun beyond hunting where hunting is allowed and in season, private property, a gun range or transporting between the above you need training, testing and a license to get a concealed carry or open carry permit. This will require a level of training and competence similar to law enforcement.
Any violation is a felony.
Every gun owner must carry gun insurance.
And every gun owner is responsible for said guns. The penalty for a gun getting in the wrong hands varies based on level of negligence and outcome, but if a child gets your gun and kills another child you will be doing time.
If your gun is stolen and you cannot show it was properly secured you are fined. (If you don't report it you are responsible for crimes its used in).
Your gun, your responsibility.
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05-26-2022, 05:42 PM #887
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05-26-2022, 05:52 PM #888
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05-26-2022, 05:59 PM #889
I meant that as a jab towards Dunfee and his weed comments. Because they were dumb.
He's a special kind of boot licker. Doesn't agree with weed laws unless they fit his narrative. Then it's all good.
I didn't mean that people who can't afford private school don't value education."I don't pretend to have all the answers, and I think there's something to be said for that" -One For The Road
Brain dead and made of money.
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05-26-2022, 06:04 PM #890
You guys can surely argue 1000 posts to end the day.
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05-26-2022, 06:08 PM #891
No, we can't.
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05-26-2022, 06:08 PM #892
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05-26-2022, 06:08 PM #893
Those two halfwits don't speak for anyone but themselves. YOU want them to be representative of gun owning America because it's an easily refuted take and binary in nature.
The truth is that most gun owners (myself included) are in favor of mandatory back ground checks and other meaningful, preventative measures.
There is no silver bullet (pun alert) to this problem but there are incremental steps we can take towards decreasing gun violence. And the quiet majority of gun owners are not against them.
But for godsakes, per Conundrum's point, learn how to communicate."All God does is watch us and kill us when we get boring. We must never, ever be boring."
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05-26-2022, 06:11 PM #894Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
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