View Poll Results: What should we do?

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  • Nothing, Cat is out of the bag and this is the cost of our "freedom"

    7 5.88%
  • Prison Time for gun owners who lose or have their gun stolen

    23 19.33%
  • Background checks and a waiting period for 100% of transactions

    95 79.83%
  • No semiautomatic anythings...

    43 36.13%
  • Tax gun sales with additional fee to go to mental health

    52 43.70%
  • Register ALL firearms and require insurance (car analogy)

    78 65.55%
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  1. #3126
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    Police reporting that it was yet another legally obtained gun.

    How could this keep happening?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    Since semiautomatic weapons, like abortion, are not explicitly specified in the Constitution, the same logic should apply.
    Ban the fucking things.
    +1

    i haven't seen it posted in this thread, so I will add the suspected shooter had a fascination with mass shooting events and hosted a chat server to discuss.

    it is really sad.

    I come from a culture where semi autos are a normal hunting weapon. The assault weapon ban not affecting all semi autos is complicated. I really think it is a clip size issue. However, when I rationally think about all semi auto weapons, it seems to me their banning is required.

    You can hunt with a bolt action or a lever action/ pump long gun. you can use a wheel gun as a pistol.

    The devastating power of pulling a trigger as quickly as possible is to apparent to ignore. Times have changed and semi autos are too deadly. Semi autos with large clips are absurd

    and again the gun issue is really a rural versus urban mindset. mass shootings are not as big an issue as that of suicide, family violence and urban violence

    regarding the second amendment, the supremes changed everything with Heller. I find it disturbing that the originalists have reinterpreted the second amendment from the original meaning of the framers.

    The law Heller over turned was ridiculous but that was what DC thought it needed at the time because of all the gun violence. The recent ruling over NY's carry law is similar. It over turns a 100 year old law. Again, because people carrying pistols concealed in NY a 100 years led to carnage
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    3, 2, 1… someone will be by shortly to invalidate your entire post because of your use of the term clip. And it’s unfortunate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ex-powderbroker View Post
    Police reporting that it was yet another legally obtained gun.

    How could this keep happening?
    Two guns. He had a second in his car.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SumJongGuy View Post
    What are the odds of being on a plane that gets hijacked? Doesn't "shall not be infringed" apply to domestic air travel as well? If I can carry a gun to McDonalds I should be able to carry a gun through the airport and on the plane amirite?

    However, that's "well regulated". I might even have to take off my shoes and get strip searched before I can get on the plane.. Humm..
    Oh I'm totally for substantial regulation of firearms for reasons including, but not at all exclusive to, mass shootings. I just don't tend to worry about them as a personal threat due to their randomness and low probability of affecting me. That doesn't mean I don't think they should be addressed.

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    exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by altacoup View Post
    Vayase a chupar la polla de champiñon de su señor.
    Is it true that you guys have code names for us?
    Yes, Mr President
    So what was Obama's?
    "Renegade"
    And Bill's?
    "Eagle"
    Hillary's should 'jailbird'
    Well, sir, it's already Evergreen
    What's mine?
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    The champion, I like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    Two guns. He had a second in his car.
    what are the odds it was left unlocked?

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    my favorite vermont gun story i witnessed

    A guy getting out of a lifted truck at the Cumby in Wallingford has a semi auto pistol skitter out of his truck or pants and hit the ground and bounce around

    dbdude - you know they can go off like that

    oy

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    Everyone thinks one of those headlines is propaganda.

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    People get shot every day in Philly.

    Highland park, not so much.

    Just watched an interview with the mayor. I forgot I know her. 7 degrees of bacon assault weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conundrum View Post
    3, 2, 1… someone will be by shortly to invalidate your entire post because of your use of the term clip. And it’s unfortunate.
    That's just a defense mechanism. Like when you can't think of anything substantive, you go full rigor pedant on nomenclature like it matters more than anything else. ..By the time you're finished, you dun forgot what had you feelin so defensive in the first place. Thanks Obama!

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    If only there was something we could do...

    Quote Originally Posted by frorider View Post
    “I do not want any more officers to be spray-gunned to death by street punks armed with high-tech killing machines.”

    BWAAAAHAAAAHAAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAAHAAAA???!?!?!?!?!?! back then, he was actually serious. His cop brain was like "we need the cool guns, not them n-words and burrito filling gangster "Geez." "this is 1989, we can gun the crackies down in to submission." Fuck 1989. "I think I saw an 'URBAN' individual, imagine if he'd had a gun?!" The only thing that separates a POC from a 'Street Punk' is a gun, just a bunch of "street punks" waiting to happen. He's the street punk.

    Driving tanks down the streets. Kicking people's doors in while looking for "something" or "somebody" and then just killing the people inside. Massive round ups of innocent blacks with his fucking kristalnacht “gang sweeps” plus an actual massive uniformed narco gang Like S. America style corruption? Waving fucking machine guns in peoples fucking faces, and the citizens are the "street punks?" this fascist can fuck right the fuck off. He was a relic when he testified in 89.Not to mention, he was chief when his stormtroopers beat the ever loving shit out of rodney king. They were so lucky he didn't have a gun, oh maybe they thought he had one.

    Me, I dont want officers spray gunning to death citizens whom they've deemed to be street punks.

    ETAA: not discounting the article in any way, but fuck that former chief he was a fascist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
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    Everyone thinks one of those headlines is propaganda.

    At a 4th of July parade, only police should have guns. Obviously doesn't happen that way, but really and truly that's what I'd prefer. It would be not only better, but a lot better, if things were like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
    Is it true that you guys have code names for us?
    Yes, Mr President
    So what was Obama's?
    "Renegade"
    And Bill's?
    "Eagle"
    Hillary's should 'jailbird'
    Well, sir, it's already Evergreen
    What's mine?
    Señor Champiñon, sir
    The champion, I like that
    Bahahahahahaha.

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    If only there was something we could do...

    Uh oh, Police visited this guy in Sept and confiscated a dozen knives after he made threats.

    Then he was allowed to buy 5 firearms.

    In illinois you cannot buy a gun without a F.O.I.D card. You have to apply for that ID.




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    Sept, 2019, family members called cops because this guy threatened to kill them all. And earlier that yr he threatened suicide.

    I assume he applied for, and was issued his FOID card after, because he was not 18 then.

    Wow, major fuck up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
    Is it true that you guys have code names for us?
    Yes, Mr President
    So what was Obama's?
    "Renegade"
    And Bill's?
    "Eagle"
    Hillary's should 'jailbird'
    Well, sir, it's already Evergreen
    What's mine?
    Señor Champiñon, sir
    The champion, I like that
    This, sir, is fucking GOLD. Thank you. Genuinely.

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    Listen you bugle-headed morons. I have zero problems with putting whack jobs on the NICS list. Do a manifesto, hit the list. Youtube your fetish, hit the list.

    This guy hit more red flag buttons than you can count, and nothing was done.
    In order to properly convert this thread to a polyasshat thread to more fully enrage the liberal left frequenting here...... (insert latest democratic blunder of your choice).

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNKen View Post
    Listen you bugle-headed morons. I have zero problems with putting whack jobs on the NICS list. Do a manifesto, hit the list. Youtube your fetish, hit the list.

    This guy hit more red flag buttons than you can count, and nothing was done.
    Kenny, that’s the problem. Laws don’t work in America. They took his samurai swords after his family called the cops and said he threatened to kill them all, then gave him a FOID card.

    We’re out of options. More stupid laws written by ignorant people obviously does not work. But you knew that.






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    So someone sponsored this guy when he applied for his FOID card, because he was not 21. Either a parent or legal guardian.


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    Dude's dad is a big red pro NRA politician.. Not a good look if his kid starts running around on the internet yelling daddy won't let me have any cool guns... So, they helped him get dem gunz... MURIKA!!!

    Anyone here really believe Ken (or any of us) don't know several people with guns who probably shouldn't have them??? and are not doing jack shit about it because unless you can prove restraining order level crazy it's pointless to try...

    And seemingly totally solid stand up gun owners can totally snap and lose their freaking minds in a bad domestic dispute situation with a little alcohol added. I don't think anyone's immune to that scenario and losing their shit.. That's why we should not have all these fucking guns..

    We WON'T decide to fix this as individuals. I'm not giving mine up individually and neither are you. We have to go all in TOGETHER AS A NATION to end this shitshow madness. That's what representation's for.. to make the tough choices few to none of us would do on our own..
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNKen View Post
    Listen you bugle-headed morons. I have zero problems with putting whack jobs on the NICS list. Do a manifesto, hit the list. Youtube your fetish, hit the list.

    This guy hit more red flag buttons than you can count, and nothing was done.
    So you agree that more control mechanisms are needed to keep guns out of the wrong hands? I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNKen View Post
    Listen you bugle-headed morons. I have zero problems with putting whack jobs on the NICS list. Do a manifesto, hit the list. Youtube your fetish, hit the list.

    This guy hit more red flag buttons than you can count, and nothing was done.
    You fetishize your collection pretty hard here...

    Should I call that in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNKen View Post
    I have zero problems with putting whack jobs on the NICS list. .
    I had no idea you were one of those big government types.
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