20TH ANNUAL (and probably last) RADAR SPEED TRAP: THIS SAT!!

**Endlessseason** · 04-26-2022, 10:43 PM

Ok, Maggs! It's that time of year. If you've ever wondered how your favorite ski tracker app compares to a real radar gun, this Saturday is likely your last chance to find out. This will be my 20th year of offering this fun little get-together. But if the turnout is as bad this Sat as it was last year, this 20th anniversary will be the last official Radar Speed Trap Day.

Look for me and Coldsmoke and possibly Alamos-Rob at the bottom of Peruvian at 9:30. Just off to the side of the maze.
See you there for a couple hours of snow fun!
> > > Saturday April 30th at 9:30 < < <
As always, IT'S FREE! Of course.

**upallnight** · 04-27-2022, 09:40 PM

How far off do you find peoples' ski tracker apps are?

It's not unusual for me to see people posting 80, 90, even just shy of 100mph from people I know are on skis with die-cut bases that haven't been tuned all year, baggy gear, and no awareness of what it takes to really go that fast.

Curious what you experience.

**soul_skier** · 04-27-2022, 11:09 PM

Having attended one of these radar speed trap days previously, which are a ton of fun by the way and all the SLC folks should turn out for it, I can tell you that at 155lbs wearing normal ski clothes breaking 80mph was a non-starter. I was on 200cm iggy FFLs with a good tune and was not turning at all throughout some of the longer/steeper runs at the bird and I maxed out at ~70mph. Tracker apps had told me I had hit 90 so there is a decent amount of deviation. In my opinion, breaking 80 with normal skis/clothes is not common without speed being an explicit goal and anyone who claims to be breaking 90 on a regular basis is either reporting bad data or is cut from different cloth than the rest of us.

**cat in january** · 04-28-2022, 08:32 AM

Sure hope folks show up for this as it would be sad to see it go away. I know I wouldn’t be going too fast as I gets scared, but fun times anyways

**Endlessseason** · 04-29-2022, 06:51 PM

The conditions are looking good for tomorrow morning!

**MagnificentUnicorn** · 04-29-2022, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by cat in january

Sure hope folks show up for this as it would be sad to see it go away. I know I wouldn’t be going too fast as I gets scared, but fun times anyways

Yeah, but how fast can you go?!

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**cat in january** · 04-29-2022, 09:35 PM

If I was in the area I would definitely show to give’r a go

**Harry** · 05-01-2022, 12:48 PM

So over the 20 years who was the fastest maggot ?

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**Endlessseason** · 05-01-2022, 11:04 PM

I was going to check but the search function isn't working for me right now. If memory serves it was 82 mph. I'm thinking maybe it was deephelmet or stroupskier?

**abraham** · 05-02-2022, 05:19 AM

Stroupskier https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...d.php?t=191619

**Endlessseason** · 05-03-2022, 09:33 AM

Found it! The 20-year all-time fastest speed by radar.
The all-time record over these 20 years was set exactly 3 years ago today, May 3, 2019, and it was because the conditions and snow surface were all-time. 82 MPH!!
Keep in mind this has always been an amateur skier event with participants using their everyday equipment and clothing. In my case, I'm as amateur as it gets. I learned to ski as an adult, have never been in any skiing programs nor learned how to race. And I was 63 years old at the time.
Fittingly, I hit this speed on a pair of 20-year old NoKaOi 193s. A ski designed by members of this ski forum as well as from the old Powder Magazine forum. One of the famous writers of that revered magazine, Pat Keane, conceived the idea of creating a ski made entirely from the collaborative efforts of ski forum members. It was a several month process, ultimately produced by AK-Skis (the Swiss ski-maker, Aldo Kuonen). The resulting NoKaOi ski was a smashing success. From that experience, Pat went on to form his own ski company, PM Gear and the Bro ski line.
It's pretty freaking cool that the all-time record was achieved on skis made by members of this forum...
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...ighlight=radar

**up an down** · 05-03-2022, 09:47 AM

Definitely worth triple posting!

**Danno** · 05-03-2022, 10:24 AM

82mph would scare the shit out of me.

**Woodsy** · 05-03-2022, 11:18 AM

Make Radar Speed Trap Day great again...

**Endlessseason** · 05-03-2022, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by up an down

Definitely worth triple posting!

Hahahaha!! Thanks for the heads-up. I had no idea that happened!

**comish** · 05-03-2022, 12:48 PM

So cool!

Mammoth had a speed trap for the kids ski team this year. Mini Comish hit 77mph. I think the top speed was 78 or 79mph. These are 13yr old kids tucking down a closed run in speed suits and super G skis for comparison. The U12's were hitting high 60's from a lower start. They use the race timing set up for what it's worth.

**allmountainsnowskating** · 12-14-2022, 08:57 PM

The speed snowskater dudes are all using this mobile app to do instagram reels showing how fast they're going.

These speeds they're doing is ridiculous, and I'm here wondering how accurate this app actually is?

For instance, I just saw this 120 kph (75mph) video:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNkoii8n...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

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**Harry** · 12-15-2022, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by larilinesign

I'm here wondering how accurate this app actually is?

If you look at Post #3 in this thread, the app was very inaccurate. App was over 20mph faster.

**allmountainsnowskating** · 12-15-2022, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Harry

If you look at Post #3 in this thread, the app was very inaccurate. App was over 20mph faster.

I'm suspicious that they've tried multiple apps and are using the one that gives them the most biased readings. The inaccuracy getting worse at higher speeds

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**TurxSki** · 12-15-2022, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by Endlessseason

Fittingly, I hit this speed on a pair of 20-year old NoKaOi 193s. A ski designed by members of this ski forum as well as from the old Powder Magazine forum.
One of the famous writers of that revered magazine, Pat Keane (Splat), conceived the idea of creating a ski made entirely from the collaborative efforts of ski forum members. It was a several month process, ultimately produced by AK-Skis (the Swiss ski-maker, Aldo Kuonen).
The resulting NoKaOi ski was a smashing success. From that experience, Pat went on to form his own ski company, PM Gear and the Bro ski line.
It's pretty freaking cool that the all-time record was achieved on skis made by members of this forum...

Thanks for the background on Splats' skis

.Vcool.

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