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    Thatís going to be rough. Thank goodness my lady has the next five days off to help me. I basically camped in the recliner with an ice machine running non stop. Not sure I could cook for myself and eating healthy is paramount after surgery. If itís your dominant arm. Get a bidet attachment. Iím immobile for six weeks. That thing is going to be money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by altacoup View Post
    Thatís going to be rough. Thank goodness my lady has the next five days off to help me. I basically camped in the recliner with an ice machine running non stop. Not sure I could cook for myself and eating healthy is paramount after surgery. If itís your dominant arm. Get a bidet attachment. Iím immobile for six weeks. That thing is going to be money.
    How are you feeling? Which ice machine did you get?



    I'm waiting for my CT Scan now. Might get results before next week if I'm lucky. Guessing the soonest I could get surgery would be the week after next. So we're looking at 5+ weeks after injury. I guess this is normal.

    Despite being absolutely ravaged financially I'm thinking of booking a spot in the Ocean Sierra race next Feb. I need something to look forward to and work towards. I wish this happened in October not fucking April. Would gladly skip ski season at this point. Gonna just have to work my fucking dick off this summer to try and keep my head above water and maybe make some money to spend sometime in the desert next winter.

    Really hoping the new lady friend will be down to help me after surgery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian View Post
    Really hoping the new lady friend will be down to help me after surgery.
    Guess that depend on if she's a righty or a lefty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Touring_Sedan View Post
    Guess that depend on if she's a righty or a lefty.
    Lol. We've already figured out that whole situation when both people are in a sling. Must be a hell of a sight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian View Post
    How are you feeling? Which ice machine did you get?



    I'm waiting for my CT Scan now. Might get results before next week if I'm lucky. Guessing the soonest I could get surgery would be the week after next. So we're looking at 5+ weeks after injury. I guess this is normal.

    Despite being absolutely ravaged financially I'm thinking of booking a spot in the Ocean Sierra race next Feb. I need something to look forward to and work towards. I wish this happened in October not fucking April. Would gladly skip ski season at this point. Gonna just have to work my fucking dick off this summer to try and keep my head above water and maybe make some money to spend sometime in the desert next winter.

    Really hoping the new lady friend will be down to help me after surgery.
    I got the berg polar care wave, which also has compression settings. Wish I wouldíve had one when I did my acl years ago. Compression really helps. Game ready is the best but way too expensive. Yesterday was incredibly painful. Until I switched from oxycodone to hydrocodone. Luckily has hydrocodone leftover from acl surgery 7 years ago, oxy prescribed for this surgery was making me itch like crazy. Opioids suck but I donít see how anyone can survive the first few days after surgery without. Compared to acl, shoulder is orders of magnitude more painful. Plus you feel incredibly vulnerable. Buy a recliner! I think tomorrow I should be able to transition to hippie pain killers. I knew thereíd be pain but yesterday was brutal. Best of luck.

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    Met with my doc this am. Iím 9 months in on PT for suspected rotator cuff issues and have made little progress. I still canít use left arm above my head or extend out anywhere but right in front of me.
    Iíve had to stop swimming entirely.

    Dr spent more time with images and does not believe at this point the cuff is the issue and is thinking bicep tendon or possible nerve issue from neck. Iím getting a scan of my neck scheduled but if that doesnít show anything he is thinking he will need go in with surgery to figure out what is causing the issues.

    Iím not all that happy about the lack of clarity on what is causing my issues and surgery without a clearly understood outcome is a bit unnerving. I am sick of the pain and lack of a functioning arm


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    Wow so the ER is kind of a joke on a Monday night. Doc to my lady friend after taking xray and looking at it: "You might have a fracture but it might be an artifact/aberration/weird something on the xray"

    New xray today at Ortho = clearly broken acromion all the way through. Can see the fracture when looking at the xray image for .000001 seconds. Damn.


    Quote Originally Posted by motopsycha View Post
    Met with my doc this am. I’m 9 months in on PT for suspected rotator cuff issues and have made little progress. I still can’t use left arm above my head or extend out anywhere but right in front of me.
    I’ve had to stop swimming entirely.

    Dr spent more time with images and does not believe at this point the cuff is the issue and is thinking bicep tendon or possible nerve issue from neck. I’m getting a scan of my neck scheduled but if that doesn’t show anything he is thinking he will need go in with surgery to figure out what is causing the issues.

    I’m not all that happy about the lack of clarity on what is causing my issues and surgery without a clearly understood outcome is a bit unnerving. I am sick of the pain and lack of a functioning arm


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    That's shitty man. Good luck!

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    Shoulder injury people...

    Is your doc a shoulder specialist? Iíd toe just seeing a general practitioner you really need to see a specialist. My surgeon identified that my bicep tendon was fucked, where as radiologist and my general completely missed that. But he also thought my subscapularis was wrecked and ince he looked at it through the scope realized it didnít need repair, which should improve my rehab. 9 months with no improvement has got to be extremely frustrating. Itís very important to get a good surgeon for shoulder work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian View Post
    Wow so the ER is kind of a joke on a Monday night. Doc to my lady friend after taking xray and looking at it: "You might have a fracture but it might be an artifact/aberration/weird something on the xray"

    New xray today at Ortho = clearly broken acromion all the way through. Can see the fracture when looking at the xray image for .000001 seconds. Damn.
    Maybe the new x-ray had a better angle that made the break more obvious, but in general GPs are useless for ortho stuff. When I broke (more like shattered) my clavicle in 2015 the Urgent Care doc's response was, "Well, clavicle breaks are normally treated conservatively, but we can refer you to an ortho if you'd like." I took one look at the x-ray image that showed my dominant-side clavicle in 3 pieces with 2" of displacement and responded that I definitely wanted to see an ortho. The ortho took one glance at the image and said that without surgery I had a 50% chance of non-union, and the best-case outcome was 10-12 weeks in a sling, mal-union, frozen shoulder, and permanent shoulder dysfunction. Got the surgery, was out of the sling in a week and MTBing 100% in 12 weeks. It still blows my mind that the GP could look at that x-ray and recommend conservative treatment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by altacoup View Post
    Is your doc a shoulder specialist? Iíd toe just seeing a general practitioner you really need to see a specialist. My surgeon identified that my bicep tendon was fucked, where as radiologist and my general completely missed that. But he also thought my subscapularis was wrecked and ince he looked at it through the scope realized it didnít need repair, which should improve my rehab. 9 months with no improvement has got to be extremely frustrating. Itís very important to get a good surgeon for shoulder work.
    Yes this guy is a orthopedic shoulder specialist with a focus on sports medicine. He has cut on me 2x before for AC joints on both sides and i have had good experiences with him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian View Post
    Lol. We've already figured out that whole situation when both people are in a sling. Must be a hell of a sight.
    One of the tests I advocate to evaluate long-term compatibility is to
    Take care of the other when they are extremely sick or injured

    Looks like you both get to test that at the same time. Congrats!

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    altacoup how you feeling?

    Met with surgeon today to look at MRI and CT. Pretty big piece of anterior socket broken off with the labrum. So they will anchor that and then pull labrum back up with it to repair. Luckily arthroscopic instead of getting the big butcher knife out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian View Post
    altacoup how you feeling?

    Met with surgeon today to look at MRI and CT. Pretty big piece of anterior socket broken off with the labrum. So they will anchor that and then pull labrum back up with it to repair. Luckily arthroscopic instead of getting the big butcher knife out.
    Did you start talking dates for surgery yet?

    That sound painful..
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    Quote Originally Posted by grskier View Post
    Did you start talking dates for surgery yet?

    That sound painful..
    They will call me later today or tomorrow to schedule. Surgeon said next week or week after. Guess I need to order the ice machine.

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    June fucking 7th. You gotta be shitting me. Guess I'm gonna start calling SLC surgeons. Fuck me.

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    That's messed up. Here's the guy who put my clavicle back together.

    https://www.toshmd.com/benjamin-j-wi...lake-city.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian View Post
    altacoup how you feeling?

    Met with surgeon today to look at MRI and CT. Pretty big piece of anterior socket broken off with the labrum. So they will anchor that and then pull labrum back up with it to repair. Luckily arthroscopic instead of getting the big butcher knife out.
    Well thatís a long story. Tested positive for COVID 2 days out of surgery. Thought my throat was sore from intubation, but my lady made me take a test. Worst sore throat ever, feverish, hard to eat. All good now and my shoulder doesnít have any real lingering pain, except when I make a movement I shouldnít make. Think I took pain meds for 4 days. Day 1-2 were pretty brutal pain after the nerve block wore off. I ended up upping my dosage per 4 hours and that helped a lot. Not necessarily recommended but I have no problem kicking pain killers. No idea why people like them, but they do help immensely after surgery. Best thing is my Dr ended up needing to repair less than he had thought. Repaired my supraspinatus and bicep tendon (pretty standard rotator cuff surgery) where as pre surgery he was thinking he might have to do the subscapularis to which wouldíve made recovery more difficult. Honestly the whole process with the U was awesome. My anesthesiologist was really good to. My second surgery with them (previously had Dr Burkes do my ACL, totally bomber repair) and both times Iíve been impressed with the whole operation. They donít baby you though. Theyíre pros, tell you how itís gonna be and do it right.


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    Metcalf is who I hear is the best guy at TOSH. At the U itís between Chalmers (thatís who I saw) and Tashjian. Chalmers is more a sports guy where as Tashjian really specializes in big reconstructions, like after bad car accidents. I do know someone who saw him for a rotator cuff surgery and had great results. But Chalmers is kind of known as the hot young gun surgeon, hence why athletes go to him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by altacoup View Post
    Well thatís a long story. Tested positive for COVID 2 days out of surgery. Thought my throat was sore from intubation, but my lady made me take a test. Worst sore throat ever, feverish, hard to eat. All good now and my shoulder doesnít have any real lingering pain, except when I make a movement I shouldnít make. Think I took pain meds for 4 days. Day 1-2 were pretty brutal pain after the nerve block wore off. I ended up upping my dosage per 4 hours and that helped a lot. Not necessarily recommended but I have no problem kicking pain killers. No idea why people like them, but they do help immensely after surgery. Best thing is my Dr ended up needing to repair less than he had thought. Repaired my supraspinatus and bicep tendon (pretty standard rotator cuff surgery) where as pre surgery he was thinking he might have to do the subscapularis to which wouldíve made recovery more difficult. Honestly the whole process with the U was awesome. My anesthesiologist was really good to. My second surgery with them (previously had Dr Burkes do my ACL, totally bomber repair) and both times Iíve been impressed with the whole operation. They donít baby you though. Theyíre pros, tell you how itís gonna be and do it right.


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    Quote Originally Posted by altacoup View Post
    Metcalf is who I hear is the best guy at TOSH. At the U itís between Chalmers (thatís who I saw) and Tashjian. Chalmers is more a sports guy where as Tashjian really specializes in big reconstructions, like after bad car accidents. I do know someone who saw him for a rotator cuff surgery and had great results. But Chalmers is kind of known as the hot young gun surgeon, hence why athletes go to him.


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    I like the sound of the Chalmers guy. Solid bio.

    Quote Originally Posted by hick View Post
    WRG, your experience at Bridger Ortho sounds pretty typical to me. Alpineís timeline on MRIís, readings and surgeries has been pretty good, but having a PT or friends in healthcare advocate for you can be really helpful. My last 2 surgeries at Alpine have been, mri, read, cut in 2 weeks. Fast Fredís advice for lighting up your fuck face insurance provider is very sound. Thatís always been the hold up in my experience. Good luck, man!!


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    Who cut you there?

    From various nurses and anesthesiologist in the valley: "Don't let anyone at Alpine even touch you except Kelleher." Thems some strong words from people who work with all the surgeons in the valley.



    Honestly not sure I can mentally take another month with the waiting and the pain. When I first go to Bridger a month ago they assumed I was pro/getting paid to ride bikes. I should have said yes haha. That may have sped things up.

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    Chalmers is really good. Heís not very personable or much of a talker. But a very good surgeon. His resume pretty much speaks for itself.


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    I'm seeing a different guy here in Bozeman next week. Possibly move surgery up.

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    Berg Polar Care Wave seems to be the jam and worth extra $100 over "Polar" brand on Amazon?

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    Sorry if I missed it, but have you checked your insurance? My wife was sent home with a rental ice machine after her ACL repair and it was mostly covered.
    Remind me. We'll send him a red cap and a Speedo.

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    Just tuning in and will share my left shoulder story. Dislocated due to trauma Thanksgiving '19. Popped back in on was to urgent care. X-rays showed it in. Met with my ortho a week later and based on my strength and ROM, he cleared me to surf. Bad idea as three days later I went out and shoulder popped out standing up on my first wave. It did not pop back in this time and the pain was unbearable by the time they got it back in at urgent care. He wanted to hold off on surgery, and assigned PT. Got an MRI, and he still thought I was good. Was back in the water the next summer (PT cleared me before that, but the pandemic hit and I wasn't gonna take any chances. Shoulder was feeling strong all summer, and then it just slipped out in September as I was boogie boarding with my kid.

    Ended up with surgery a week later. Rented a reclining medical chair to sleep in. That was clutch. I had a labrum tear and the top of my humerus was sheared off. Also a bicep tendon was in bad shape. They tied my rotator cuff into my hummers and "repaired" the labrum and nailed down the bicep. 6 weeks in the sling was rough. I really looked forward to my early PT for movement. 12 weeks after surgery, I felt in pretty solid shape. Was back on the bike almost at full speed. Surfing came in spring, more like 20 weeks after surgery. That was harder to get back into and feel confident. At this point, my left shoulder feels stronger and more stable than my right. ROM is some what limited, but it does not keep me off the surfboard, the bike or the skis at this point. Tho I might not be going as big as I used, that makes sense as I turn 50 in a few months.

    One other note, if you get a nerve block DO NOT wait for it to wear off before starting pain meds. I did and that first night was some of the most dull aching pain I have ever experienced. I thought they had accidentally performed surgery on my elbow due to the phantom pain there all night. My wife said I was owning most of the night.

    Best of luck with your surgery and recovery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian View Post
    Berg Polar Care Wave seems to be the jam and worth extra $100 over "Polar" brand on Amazon?
    The wave model adds compression to the mix. Highly recommended. If you donít want the compression aspect I recommend just using actual ice as itíll be colder than any machine will. These ice machines donít get nearly as cold as actual ice in a bag. They are able to be used more constantly, which is nice the first 3-4 days. There are proven healing benefits of compression mixed with cold. If your insurance will cover it a game ready rental is the best option.


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