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Thread: Vail wants this image censored.
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04-08-2022, 09:00 AM #26
A couple seasons ago I read articles and forum posts blaming the Vail takeover of W/B for slower alpine openings, and early closings. Now it's the opposite?
There is no conspiracy here. Trying to control things in a natural environment has risks, and when things like this happen they 100% will complete an investigation. If not for the PR and 'lets-learn-from-this' goal, then at least a legal one. Vail isn't stupid, they're just greedy.
Ski resorts get sued all the time. That fine print on the back of your pass only goes so far.
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04-08-2022, 09:05 AM #27
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04-08-2022, 09:12 AM #28
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04-08-2022, 09:47 AM #29
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04-08-2022, 09:50 AM #30
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04-08-2022, 10:04 AM #31
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04-08-2022, 11:33 PM #32
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04-09-2022, 05:35 AM #33
Didn't appear to be shared by an employee:
It was shared by a former patroller who writes a daily blog as an avalanche educator.
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04-09-2022, 06:51 AM #34
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04-09-2022, 07:21 AM #35
^^^ Wow, stopped clock and all that.
I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.
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04-09-2022, 09:59 AM #36Registered User
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04-09-2022, 12:11 PM #37
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04-09-2022, 01:44 PM #38
Deaths and their causes are public record is a pretty tough concept, eh Benny?
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04-09-2022, 01:47 PM #39
DOOD, HE’S ALWAYS RIGHT!!!!!
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04-09-2022, 02:52 PM #40
There's a thread on this issue:
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...r-safer-people
This does a good job of explaining it:
Exploring the systemic lack of transparency surrounding accidental ski deaths in Colorado
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04-09-2022, 04:23 PM #41ski paintingshttp://michael-cuozzo.fineartamerica.com" horror has a face; you must make a friend of horror...horror and moral terror.. are your friends...if not, they are enemies to be feared...the horror"....col Kurtz
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04-09-2022, 05:55 PM #42Meadowskipping old fart
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Coroner's report will be public. But Coroners aren't avalanche experts (in British Columbia they aren't even required to have medical training). MAYBE the coroner will seek advice from an independent avalanche expert, maybe they won't.
And there will NOT be a coroner's report on the inbounds avalanche that was the subject of the photograph that management asked to be removed - nobody died in that avalanche. (Though there is a chance that the coroner MIGHT decide that the non-fatal inbounds avalanche(s) were relevant to the fatal one).
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04-09-2022, 06:18 PM #43
Uh, guys, I hate to say this but Benny isn’t wrong here.
I ski 135 degree chutes switch to the road.
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04-10-2022, 07:17 AM #44
People who report these seem hesitant to point the blame finger. I guess they think its sad enough someone died while recreating.
They seem to usually report if a helmet is worn...though a large % wearing helmets die from injuries not head related ...I'm not sure that helmet info is relevant in those accidents. They should be reporting on questions like you asked.
it is hard to say, with these inbound deaths, what the cause really is without direct testimony from those involved or witnesses. So many factors could contribute-out of control, collisions, unfamiliar terrain, conditions, human ignorance- and we can't ask the deceased what happenedski paintingshttp://michael-cuozzo.fineartamerica.com" horror has a face; you must make a friend of horror...horror and moral terror.. are your friends...if not, they are enemies to be feared...the horror"....col Kurtz
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04-10-2022, 09:32 AM #45
You can’t mitigate all avalanche hazard in alpine terrain, full stop.
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04-10-2022, 09:37 AM #46powdork.com - new and improved, with 20% more dork.
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04-10-2022, 10:44 AM #47Meadowskipping old fart
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The most recent statistical report by the BC Coroners Service on avalanche deaths does not even mention whether any of the deaths were inbounds at ski resorts. It is 8 years old. None of the inquest reports on their website (2007 to date) appear to be avalanche related.
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/bi.../avalanche.pdf
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04-10-2022, 11:23 AM #48
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04-10-2022, 11:27 AM #49
Blah blah blah, do you know how often in bound slides happen at hills with real terrain that can slide? Over the years at Kirkwood I have observed no less than 10 inbounds slides. Some small, some massive. It is impossible to fully tame the dragon. To assume otherwise is just foolish. Failed to manage their terrain safely? Maybe ski in the Poconos if what you desire is 100% safety.
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04-10-2022, 11:32 AM #50
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