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    Unmounting bindings to tune?

    Picking up a basic tune. Dude unmounted my dynafits(not quiver killed) to do a basic tune.

    Said that's the way it's done? Wtf?

    Am I right in being like wtf? Cause I'm pretty much like wtf.

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    Must burn those skis to appeal to Ullr now.
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    why ?
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    Total wtf…

    I’ve heard a lot and that’s a brand new one to me.

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    He must also take out the liners to buckle his boots

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    So not only did they unnecessarily pull your bindings, they also returned the skis to you without putting them back on? Care to mention the shop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benneke10 View Post
    So not only did they unnecessarily pull your bindings, they also returned the skis to you without putting them back on? Care to mention the shop?
    I mean, if that's the intelligence level of the technician we're talking about, I probably wouldn't want them to put the bindings back on at this point.

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    AFAIK there isn't a single tuning machine that requires skis to go in flat. Even the big base grinders accommodate bindings. Tuning dude is being a complete kook.

    If he returned the bindings unmounted you're probably better off, at least you can remount properly with epoxy. If he remounted them himself he probably over torqued everything and stripped at least half the holes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benneke10 View Post
    So not only did they unnecessarily pull your bindings, they also returned the skis to you without putting them back on? Care to mention the shop?
    I walked in as the binding s were off, was like wtf. Didn't blow up though. Not cool imo.

    Dude said he torque spec d them back on w silicone. Said holes were tapped. Again. Wtf.

    Dude compd the job. Fucking retarded imo.

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    I will occasionally pull my own bindings for a bunch of passes on the stone grinder, as I think you "may" get a smoother pull through (and it takes less attention), but for most jobs you just put the ramp attachment on over the bindings and let 'er rip . . .

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    Out of curiosity, why wouldn't you tune your own skis? In less time than it'd take me to drop off a pair, I'd be done tuning.
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    Live and travel full time van. 1/4 mill wintersteiger would be a touched cramped

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    Kook level 9000

    I know the shop and know LOTS of local people have taken skis there for years. I bet none of them know their bindings are being unmounted. When byates told me about this I thought the shop was trying to mess with him or something....

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    Quote Originally Posted by byates1 View Post
    Live and travel full time van. 1/4 mill wintersteiger would be a touched cramped
    Got a trailer hitch?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian View Post
    Kook level 9000

    I know the shop and know LOTS of local people have taken skis there for years. I bet none of them know their bindings are being unmounted. When byates told me about this I thought the shop was trying to mess with him or something....
    So they do this for all their tunes without mentioning it? Why? Sounds like a lot of extra work

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    I've heard of it once as a premium tune job where the the bindings are taken off, I think its something to do with the ski gets flatter without the binding on top and all those screws being cranked down/ warping the ski but it all sounds bogus to me

    cuz when you put the bindings back on they will infinitesimally alter the flatness of the ski ( if that in fact happens ?)

    so it would be better to tune with the bindings ON and then the ski will be flatest in the binding-on state

    but its all bogus
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    Silicon? Am I the only one who saw that? Wtf
    This is a prime example of what not to do to tune a ski. What shop? It needs to be said.

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    Gear wizard Bozeman Mt

    Dude says he's been doing it for 30yrs.

    Nice guy. I am not down w my bindings being taken off for no reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2FUNKY View Post
    Silicon? Am I the only one who saw that? Wtf
    This is a prime example of what not to do to tune a ski. What shop? It needs to be said.
    Ski tune industry has pushed silicon chip shortage over the edge. No more silicon chips installed during tunes! THIS MUST END!!

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    yeah I also noticed silicone and the extra tap job, there is just so much WTF in this thread

    I'm curious what they charge if it wasn't comped ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by byates1 View Post
    Gear wizard Bozeman Mt

    Dude says he's been doing it for 30yrs.

    Nice guy. I am not down w my bindings being taken off for no reason.
    Just because youíve done something wrong for 30 yrs doesnít make it right. Lol
    Nobody should be man. Thatís just bizarre.

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    Was some sort of silicon glue to be fair. Was like 45/60$ I think.

    I talked w 3 other shops I trust and they were all like what?!

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    A cut n paste from gearwizard's page

    "Ski and Snowboard Repair Services
    We currently have put ski and snowboard services on hold until fall.

    Wax and Edge $35
    Full Tune $45 // Base grinding and minor base repairs included
    Magic Tune $60 // Stone Grinding and minor base repairs included
    Base Welds $10 per cm
    Nordic Mount $25
    Telemark Mount $30
    Alpine Mount $40
    AT Mount $60
    Edge "

    so this ^^ is what buddy charges, I duno how those prices are but they dont seem excessive ?
    Last edited by XXX-er; 04-05-2022 at 05:37 PM.
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    Considering they are in loonies those are pretty good relative to shops around me

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    So we would pull bindings on race skis occasionally, that was like 7Ė10 years ago, running a different machine and some of the race skis had shit bases and we could apply better pressure and it was more uniform, some times the transition on to the bridge would make a pattern so funny things. But pulling bindings off a ski for no reason is absolutely ridiculous. And this assumes a lot of risk unless they take your boot for every tune, because they canít set forward pressure back.

    anyway. That race tune is 150-225 depending on how you want it finished.

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