Camping in Moab during Jeep Safari Week?

[MakersTeleMark]

Or you could just #overland in through the back door.

Fiesta approved.

[evdog]

I was hanging out with some Moab locals this winter and what blew me away is that they're pretty alright with the Jeep gapers when you compare them to the side-by-side jerkoffs. I don't know if its the lower cost of entry or the capabilities of those vehicles but they turned the redneck douchebag jeep culture up to 11.

Easy entry to anything seems to attract the lowest common denominator of ignorant assholes. And side by sides definitely have a lower barrier to entry into douchebagville than a jeep does. They're not just cheaper, they are built to go fast and are super capable right from the factory. Just throw down $20k, load the cooler up with natty ice and whiteclaw, and go raise hell. Not much different from e-bikes, really. No skill or fitness needed, just get out there and shred. Those hikers will dive out of your way. Also no different from accessibility to the outdoors in general. A killer spot stays pristine and under the radar for years as people who found it on their own took care and protected it. Then it gets blown up for likes on social media. And the masses who show up next? Well that looks like a great place to take a shit.

I think lack of education and accountability to their user group as part of the price of entry is the big problem. The average jeeper "grew up" wheeling with others who taught them the ropes, has built up their own rigs, and has probably seen a bunch of areas shut down by irresponsible use. It helps that their jeeps aren't built for speed so much even if they are very capable. As a group they just have a whole different attitude than the side by side owners.

[bagtagley]

It doesn’t hurt that Utah has bent over backwards to accommodate SxSs and all the associated douchebaggery.

[climberevan]

SxSs are definitely in the same category of douchebag enabling, but they are even worse than mopeds. As a dirt biker I can confidently say that most of us hate them with as passion. They have totally destroyed long-enjoyed places in just a few years.

Baja is the biggest tragedy of all. Many ranchers that permitted motos' passage and even trail building for decades have put up gates in the last 5 years. Routes that we've enjoyed since the 80s are now closed to us thanks to giant groups of assholes driving SxSs through like they think they are in the 1000.

I randomly ended up in Moab twice during the Jeep week back in my climbing days. That was way before Moab blew up so it was more of a funny spectacle than a real bother. I didn't understand the fascination with trying to get your Jeep over giant rocks at walking speed then and i haven't learned to appreciate it any more since.

[muted reborn]

Well that looks like a great place to take a shit.

Good explainer post overall and this line made me laugh

I randomly ended up in Moab twice during the Jeep week back in my climbing days. That was way before Moab blew up so it was more of a funny spectacle than a real bother. I didn't understand the fascination with trying to get your Jeep over giant rocks at walking speed then and i haven't learned to appreciate it any more since.

Why do you want go up a rock wall with ropes and smash your fingers in the desert anyways? Climbing is a weird sport too.

[rudy]

Why do you want go up a rock wall with ropes and smash your fingers in the desert anyways? Climbing is a weird sport too.

Are we claiming 4-wheeling as a sport now?

[muted reborn]

Are we claiming 4-wheeling as a sport now?

let's avoid this rabbit hole and call them both 'activities'.

[zion zig zag]

let's avoid this rabbit hole and call them both 'activities'.

Hemingway said that they are two of the only three sports?

“There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.”

[Truckee Joe]

I was there last June, I found good camping a little north on the road to Green River. Found some trails up there and it was easy to just jet down to Moab for a day, enjoy then get out. Summers are definitely much more crowed than years past.


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[toast2266]

Are we claiming 4-wheeling as a sport now?

It takes a certain amount of endurance to withstand being jostled back and forth for 8 hours straight.

[fastfred]

It takes a certain amount of endurance to withstand being jostled back and forth for 8 hours straight.

sounds like we can throw nascar into the mix too you know? how many left hand turns can you make six hours or is a right hand turn?

[fastfred]

Or you could just #overland in through the back door.

so I"m pretty interested in trying this back door approach but I need some guidance
I know where the back door is and I'm an #overlander
my questions are
should I buy another set of traction boards before going? having four is better than two I imagine? especially if one is damaged I'll have at least two others
Astrolube or KY in the condiment jugs?
Do you think it's safe to do? what protection do I need?
if I need to stop and have a snack do you know a time to take a break
if I'm deflated what kind of air compressor should I buy to get back up

[concretejungle]

Hemingway said that they are two of the only three sports?

“There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.”

He also wasn't talking about top roping at Indian Creek but...

[schuss]

Hemingway said that they are two of the only three sports?

“There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.”

To be fair, that was when motor racing had much higher fatality rates. He'd probably strike it from the list these days.

[adrenalated]

so I"m pretty interested in trying this back door approach but I need some guidance
I know where the back door is and I'm an #overlander
my questions are
should I buy another set of traction boards before going? having four is better than two I imagine? especially if one is damaged I'll have at least two others

You already know the answer. Make sure you get some shackles too, powdercoated to match your condiment jugs obviously.

Astrolube or KY in the condiment jugs?

At least one jug of each

Do you think it's safe to do? what protection do I need?

I'd recommend a .45 in case of grizzly bears as well as a shotgun in case you need to intimidate any Federales at the border

if I need to stop and have a snack do you know a time to take a break

Anywhere with a flat rock and a dramatic view so that you can do yoga poses for your Instagram story. Otherwise, stop at the largest boulder you can find, try to get your rig as flexed out as possible, and make a tik tok video

if I'm deflated what kind of air compressor should I buy to get back up

Viagra or Cialis, whatever works best for you

[Dantheman]

It doesn’t hurt that Utah has bent over backwards to accommodate SxSs and all the associated douchebaggery.

Making them street legal was a pretty fucked up move.

[beaterdit]

Making them street legal was a pretty fucked up move.

Very. Moab's kinda over to me anymore. Extreme ends of the season or sniping in for a warm day in the off season is good. Other than that, leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Fuck. Just randomly stumbled on this thread. Was gonna head down there Thurs through Sunday. I hate fucking weekends but riding buddy coming from Denver can't ride during the week.

Camping WAY out.....like 45+ mins from town is still a shitshow?

Dude do yourself a favor, take toast's advice and head to Fruita/Grand Junction. Plenty of good trail over there without the hype. I mean, avoid 18 rd. of course, you won't be missing much there. Don't forget Palisade Rim though, and hit up the brewery after.

[muted reborn]

Fuck. Just randomly stumbled on this thread. Was gonna head down there Thurs through Sunday. I hate fucking weekends but riding buddy coming from Denver can't ride during the week.

Camping WAY out.....like 45+ mins from town is still a shitshow?

You are probably fine camping way out and off of a random unpopular road somewhat close to I70.

[Whiteroom_Guardian]

Fruita/GJ next trip. Gonna minimize the climbing with shuttling as I'm still on low HR for now getting past this long covid shit. Plenty of off the beaten path BLM and I'm getting there tomorrow afternoon. Most of the Jeepers probably arrive on Friday.

[grskier]

Most of the Jeepers probably arrive on Friday.

LULZ

[snowaddict91]

Very. Moab's kinda over to me anymore. Extreme ends of the season or sniping in for a warm day in the off season is good. Other than that, leaves a bad taste in my mouth.



Dude do yourself a favor, take toast's advice and head to Fruita/Grand Junction. Plenty of good trail over there without the hype. I mean, avoid 18 rd. of course, you won't be missing much there. Don't forget Palisade Rim though, and hit up the brewery after.

Yup and yup. Everyone always mentions how awesome it must be to be so close to Moab, but I hardly ever go anymore. But I did have a killer weekend right before thanksgiving this year. Daytime highs were only 50, but we had a campsite right in town and it was barely busy at all.

Looking forward to a weekend in Palisade at the end of the month.

[skaredshtles]

<snip> But I did have a killer weekend right before thanksgiving this year. Daytime highs were only 50, but we had a campsite right in town and it was barely busy at all.

Dude.

STFU.

[fastfred]

You already know the answer. Make sure you get some shackles too, powdercoated to match your condiment jugs obviously.

I went with black shackles I do think the red ones are cool looking but I didn't want to look like every other #gotos #toolbagoverlander

and jesus fucking christ
moab was sooooo coool twenty years ago
yeah when I got off the greyhound bus in breckenridge twenty something years ago it was a fuck ton cooler too

goto moab have fun

if you misanthropes don't like people that much I have a long list of solid camping places in moab and a boat load of other towns out west where you can pound one out standing next to your #goto's rig with no one around to see you

and junciton fruita? huh that's where all the whiney people who think moab sucks go to ride bikes

and PS the top of palisade plunge start is under 3 or 4 ft of snow bring your rock skis

[skaredshtles]

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and junciton fruita? huh that's where all the whiney people who think moab sucks go to ride bikes

[Bunion 2020]

Fuck off Fred. I wandered into Moab in the fall of 1984 and spent 2 weeks camping in Arches and eating shrooms after moving out from Indiana, mind blown! The birds sounded very funny to me.

No one had ever heard of a Mountain Bike...... not really but you get the picture.

Moab was done as soon as Outside started pimping the place. Had some great times but I am on the same page as Beater, shoulder season stealth missions only.