OFFICIAL MLB 2022 THREAD

**Brock Landers** · 02-02-2023, 09:21 PM

The money is too good. Why stop if someone is giving you millions. Plus anyone half decent is getting a long, rich, deal in their prime (28-31years old).

**ex-powderbroker** · 02-03-2023, 06:58 AM

wonder what happened to future hall of famer chris sabo then

**alias_rice** · 02-03-2023, 07:08 AM

Woodsy, do you think Steve Garvey and his 38 career WAR belongs in the Hall over Rolen?

**Brock Landers** · 02-03-2023, 11:23 PM

Neither but Garvey pretty consistently in the discussion among the best in the league year in and year out.

Rolen…didn’t do enough to warrant any discussion in pretty much any year. Until the nerds came in and convinced people he was an all-time great of the game.

**alias_rice** · 02-04-2023, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by Brock Landers

Neither but Garvey pretty consistently in the discussion among the best in the league year in and year out.

Rolen…didn’t do enough to warrant any discussion in pretty much any year. Until the nerds came in and convinced people he was an all-time great of the game.

It just shows the different way to look at things. Does he pass the very subjective “Does he feel like a Hall of Famer?” test, or do his stats objectively qualify him?

**Danno** · 02-04-2023, 08:12 AM

In today's era, nobody would call Garvey one of the best in the league, we know better now. The fact that in a different era, people didn't have the evaluative tools or knowledge we do now, doesn't really make for a strong argument.

And defensively, Rolen absolutely was talked about as one of the best ever, while he was playing.