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  1. #1601
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    exactly, we're in agreement that Albert's first 11 seasons were all time, one of the greatest stretches ever seen; as you note 3 MVPs and 3 runner ups (it was actually 4 runner-ups), and a 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 9th for good measure. So if Ohtani matched Pujols' OPS+ average for just one season, that means he had a great season, right? What am I missing?
    Well, he is not matching it exactly because 150 < 165. And of those 11 seasons, Pujols "only" won 3 times. Add in the very good pitching and there would be a case in any season, but context matters. Pujols did not win when Bonds hit 73, for instance and he didn't win when voters rewarded other people for contributing to their teams winning seasons in a dramatic way. Unfortunately, value is still in the eye of voter. Pujols won at least a single gold glove, which gives back some of the value of being a dh too.

    As far as Moon's argument that greater than 10% of a season total of win shares is more impressive than maybe 10% on a 100 win yankee team, that is a race to the bottom. There is no value of being a 6 win player on a 50 win team. Last is last. Maybe management even stuck a fork in the socket by not trading that player for rooks at the deadline, but of course win shares a percentage of team wins would be higher than Ohtani or Judge (who might be worth double). But why would anyone care?

    Still not a voter though, if you can believe it.

    Go yanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by ex-powderbroker View Post
    Well, he is not matching it exactly because 150 < 165.
    Well fuck me, now I'm supposed to fact check everything you post before responding to it? You are the one who posted "165", and now you've edited it to 150 and called my post out for my 165 being wrong? With absolutely zero acknowledgement for where I got the 165 number? Whatever.

    Aaron Judge is the greatest player in all of baseball and deserves to be crowned king of the baseball universe! Barring that, at least AL MVP. Let it be so!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    Well fuck me, now I'm supposed to fact check everything you post before responding to it? You are the one who posted "165", and now you've edited it to 150 and called my post out for my 165 being wrong? With absolutely zero acknowledgement for where I got the 165 number? Whatever.

    Aaron Judge is the greatest player in all of baseball and deserves to be crowned king of the baseball universe! Barring that, at least AL MVP. Let it be so!

    Happy?
    Ask me in a couple of home runs
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    some body is counting chickens

    not even triple crown winner anymore or does being tied for BA count?

    Like cheering for a team with multiple people on those lists.

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    Yankees fans have become the worst of old money AND new money fans since itís been so fucking long since they won anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supermoon View Post
    Yankees fans have become the worst of old money AND new money fans since itís been so fucking long since they won anything.
    And theyíre probably the ugliest fans in sports.
    Decisions Decisions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    And theyíre probably the ugliest fans in sports.
    They are some funny looking mother fuckers

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    OFFICIAL MLB 2022 THREAD

    700 for Pujols. Legend

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supermoon View Post
    700 for Pujols. Legend
    Incredible. Props, Albert.
    I still call it The Jake.

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    Guards now third in the AL. Amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EWG View Post
    Guards now third in the AL. Amazing.
    Magic Number is 3!!!

    Best story in baseball that no one is talking about.

    Youngest team in the bigs and a younger average age than the average AAA team age.

    In Tito we trust.
    I still call it The Jake.

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    The Al central except for the guards licks toilet bowls more than timberridge

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    How the Guards have summarily put to sleep the Twins and Sox in order from the division race these past two weeks is nothing short of inspiring.

    15 wins in last 17 games I believe?
    I still call it The Jake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supermoon View Post
    700 for Pujols. Legend
    Quote Originally Posted by BmillsSkier View Post
    Incredible. Props, Albert.
    Listening to the crowd, you'd never know he was playing for the visitors. The roar when he connected was electric.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BmillsSkier View Post
    How the Guards have summarily put to sleep the Twins and Sox in order from the division race these past two weeks is nothing short of inspiring.

    15 wins in last 17 games I believe?
    I also believe. I believe the Braves look tired and are coming up short.
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BmillsSkier View Post
    How the Guards have summarily put to sleep the Twins and Sox in order from the division race these past two weeks is nothing short of inspiring.

    15 wins in last 17 games I believe?

    Just a few weeks ago they would have been third or worse in every other division, but they got hot at the right time. Itís an impressive run for sure.

    We are two weeks away from Baseball transitioning from fun and relaxing into a stressful, anxiety filled shit show. And I canít wait. The current picture looks like a blast.




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    Phillies/Braves and Mariners/Guards would be good series

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    Dangerboy is all in for a subway series and he knows baseball. Sorry guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brownski View Post
    Dangerboy is all in for a subway series and he knows baseball. Sorry guys
    Mets look pretty unbeatable tonight.
    St Louis is really good. Kershaw is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodsy View Post
    Mets look pretty unbeatable tonight.
    St Louis is really good. Kershaw is better.
    I loved those baby blue Cardinals jerseys though.

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    And the Guards now have a magic number of 1 to win the Central. 17 wins in their last 20. Their two unknown rookies are averaging about 297 between them.

    Such a fun team.

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    AL CENTRAL CHAMPS!!!

    The youngest team in all of Major League Baseball just came up and took the division with a magical season (and September, so far going 18 wins in their last 21 games).

    Your AL Rookie of the Year, Steven Kwan, had himself a day too with a Grand Slam, 3 hits, 3 runs, 5 RBI and 2 stolen bases. Incredible.

    Looking great, Tito!
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    ROLL GUARDS.
    I still call it The Jake.

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    Letís go tribe.

    200% blew their load early, canít wait to bet against them (sorry bmills I hope you and Tito get it done)
    Decisions Decisions

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    Hope to see you at the Jake in Oct/Nov

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