OFFICIAL MLB 2022 THREAD

[ex-powderbroker]

Cleveland is only drawing 15k/game? I'm rooting for the Twins, at least their fans want to see baseball.

[BmillsSkier]

do you see anything on this uniform indicating an officer airman?

Well done.

Cleveland is only drawing 15k/game? I'm rooting for the Twins, at least their fans want to see baseball.

That’s just mean.

I really have no clue why attendance is low (it’s a football town I get it, but give your money to a decent franchise ffs), but the average is a bit deceiving; mid week games don’t draw well for whatever reason, they’ve been doing pretty well from every weekend game I see with a pretty packed house, and for some reason baseball refuses to play day games which would help with families they’re targeting.

I was part of the 455 game sellout streak of the 90s thanks to my family’s season tickets; now that was a party each and every night. It would be nice to get somewhere close to that again.

[Bunion 2020]

Pirates game the other night was 11K in attendance.

[ex-powderbroker]

I was part of the 455 game sellout streak of the 90s thanks to my family’s season tickets; now that was a party each and every night. It would be nice to get somewhere close to that again.

Oh, I didn't realize they didn't play midweek then.

Pirates game the other night was 11K in attendance.

That's a good night in Oakland, and pretty typical at both embarrassing stadiums in Florida.



Just to shit on the Yankees a bit, why did they pull out 10k+ seats with the renovation? I hate DNYS. The word stadium comes from latin for really big cheap place to watch sports, not this dinky little place with expensive cushy seats that are empty by home plate. But maybe hot dog straws will save the day.

[ötzi]

Yeah all those empty seats behind home is not a good look.

Sox could still surprise but it'd be a hell of a big surprise at this point.

[dunfree]

Just to shit on the Yankees a bit, why did they pull out 10k+ seats with the renovation? I hate DNYS. The word stadium comes from latin for really big cheap place to watch sports, not this dinky little place with expensive cushy seats that are empty by home plate. But maybe hot dog straws will save the day.

Didn’t most every team with anew stadium reduce capacity after the 1994 strike season/success of Camden yards? Giants dropped capacity by ~1/3 with the move to McCovey Cove. Mariners lost 12k seats after they left the Kingdome. Twins lost 7-16k seats after they left the HHHM. I’m all for yankee bashing, but it was a thing baseball did.

[Danno]

Just to shit on the Yankees a bit

Always welcome.

[Danno]

For June, July, and August the Mets are 45-29. Pretty good, right? That would be a 99 win pace over a full season.

The fucking Braves are 54-21 over that same period. Have gained 8.5 games, and that's a 117 win pace over a full season.

Will the Braves just have a fucking losing streak already?

[Woodsy]

I see the Mets losing 2 Aug 30 & 31st

[BmillsSkier]

ROLL GUARDS! Sweep of the Pads today in a 7-0 shellacking of Cy Young winner Snell and crew. On to Seattle!

Didn’t most every team with anew stadium reduce capacity after the 1994 strike season/success of Camden yards? Giants dropped capacity by ~1/3 with the move to McCovey Cove. Mariners lost 12k seats after they left the Kingdome. Twins lost 7-16k seats after they left the HHHM. I’m all for yankee bashing, but it was a thing baseball did.

Pfft. When the Indians left Municipal Stadium (largest crowd an amazing fucking 86,288 people), they lost more than 40,000 seats when Jacobs Field opened in 1994 for a measly 42,865 (now 34,830).


ExPow:


Am I disappointed that the team that has won the 4th most number of games in all of fucking baseball since 2013 are averaging a half-full house? Yeah, of course I am, cause in my mind they deserve a hell of a lot better. That said, their situation isn't terribly different from any other small market team, coming out of a pandemic, with a shrinking population, etc., etc., etc. (Keep in mind, when the 455 streak was happening the Browns weren't in existence and the Cavs were coming out of the Price/Daugherty/Ehlo years so it was kinda the biggest ticket in town)

The product on the field wins year in and year out for as long as I've been a fan with minimal down years, no matter how fucking cheap the Dolans are. Sure, no World Series titles in there, but a shit-ton of Division Titles, 3 Pennants and some entertaining as hell baseball is all I need.

Will the Braves just have a fucking losing streak already?

I'll ask Ozzie, cause he seems nice, but I don't think they'll entertain your request Danno.

[irul&ublo]

I see the Mets losing 2 Aug 30 & 31st

Sounds a lot like Aug 22 & 23

[dunfree]

Pfft. When the Indians left Municipal Stadium (largest crowd an amazing fucking 86,288 people), they lost more than 40,000 seats when Jacobs Field opened in 1994 for a measly 42,865 (now 34,830). .

the crazy thing to me is it opened with over >70k seats in the 1930s. Which was over triple League Park. Target field is about 1k seats less than when the twins came to town and expanded metropolitan stadium the second season. Whatever mcovey cove is called now is about the same as the stick the first couple years.

[Supermoon]

I would much rather see a game at a full 40k ballpark than a half empty 80k ballpark. I saw a game at the coliseum that had 3k as the paid attendance, and if there were 1500 people there I would have been shocked. Whole sections of the outfield and upper deck were closed, half the food stands didn’t open, it was really sad. Place was a cemetery

[BmillsSkier]

the crazy thing to me is it opened with over >70k seats in the 1930s. Which was over triple League Park. Target field is about 1k seats less than when the twins came to town and expanded metropolitan stadium the second season. Whatever mcovey cove is called now is about the same as the stick the first couple years.

It's been a while since I've dug into the history, but I believe Muni Stadium was built to try and entice the (1930-some) Olympic Games. Well, that didn't happen because reasons (but now we get Winter Games in Beijing and Sochi and World Cups in desert hellholes; PROGRESS!!!), hence, the "mistake on the Lake".

I remember going to both Tribe and Browns games as a very young kid and two things stick out in my memory (a) the fans were fucking savages no matter what sport was being played. They showed up to get a cheap seat, drink cheap beer, and yell cheap shit at the players and each other as loud as they fucking could; and (b) if you weren't in the first 30 rows, you were behind a giant iron beam in some capacity for the entirety of the game - God help you if that view was of home plate, or a base, or even the end zone.

Good times.

[Woodsy]

Dodgers magic number is 15

Joey Gallo rakes

[ötzi]

It's been a while since I've dug into the history...

Oddly, I recently read about it. It was built in an act of civic promotion that was not related to the 1932 Los Angeles Olympics, which had been awarded long before ground was broken for the stadium. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Stadium

[BmillsSkier]

Oddly, I recently read about it. It was built in an act of civic promotion that was not related to the 1932 Los Angeles Olympics, which had been awarded long before ground was broken for the stadium. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Stadium

An act of civic promotion.

I like that.

[ex-powderbroker]

I would much rather see a game at a full 40k ballpark than a half empty 80k ballpark. I saw a game at the coliseum that had 3k as the paid attendance, and if there were 1500 people there I would have been shocked. Whole sections of the outfield and upper deck were closed, half the food stands didn’t open, it was really sad. Place was a cemetery

It wasn't a problem in NY. in 2008, the last year of YS2, they averaged 53k. People in the bay are so sick of the A's they could make the BART free and give away beer and people still wouldn't show up.

[Bunion 2020]

For June, July, and August the Mets are 45-29. Pretty good, right? That would be a 99 win pace over a full season.

The fucking Braves are 54-21 over that same period. Have gained 8.5 games, and that's a 117 win pace over a full season.

Will the Braves just have a fucking losing streak already?

The biggest reason the Braves are WS champs is because they peaked at the right time. They show signs of that again this season. Sorry.

[ötzi]

An act of civic promotion.

I like that.

"Build it and they will come" was the apparent idea.

I was wondering if it was still there for an epic Guards WS appearance (of course it's long gone) is how I happened to read about the place.

[Timberridge]

It's been a while since I've dug into the history, but I believe Muni Stadium was built to try and entice the (1930-some) Olympic Games.

Of the 80,000 seats about 20,000 were behind a big iron I-beam. So there's that.

[Supermoon]

That's just called charm

[BmillsSkier]

"Build it and they will come" was the apparent idea.

I was wondering if it was still there for an epic Guards WS appearance (of course it's long gone) is how I happened to read about the place.

Now that would have been fucking cool. For now, we'll just have to be happy with seeing Muni Stadium by watching reruns of Major League, which seems to be on a lot lately.

Of the 80,000 seats about 20,000 were behind a big iron I-beam. So there's that.

A part of me thinks that was an inside joke or "fuck you" by the ironworkers of Cleveland.

That's just called charm

Ha!

[Woodsy]

For June, July, and August the Mets are 45-29. Pretty good, right? That would be a 99 win pace over a full season.

The fucking Braves are 54-21 over that same period. Have gained 8.5 games, and that's a 117 win pace over a full season.

Will the Braves just have a fucking losing streak already?

Good scouting:

Vaughn Grissom, through his first 15 games with Atlanta, has hit .382 with a 1.024 OPS asked about the 2019 MLB Draft approached.

“I thought I was going to be a Met, which would have been terrible,” Grissom said.

[Woodsy]

An act of civic promotion.

I like that.

Its a lot better than taking a team out of Brooklyn and then removing more than 1,000 mostly Mexican American families from Chavez Ravine to make way for the stadium using eminent domain. loads of “los desterrados” (“the uprooted”) still around.

but their kids are mostly Dodgers fans