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    Zelensky is the greatest comedian, he turned the Russian army in to a joke

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    Quote Originally Posted by MultiVerse View Post
    It could go in the opposite direction WRT China. China may well see this an opportunity to sideline the U.S:

    • China thinks the Russian invasion will continue b/c there's no Western plan to stop it
    There's a Ukrainian plan to stop it, yo?


    • China believes there's no plan to stop the war b/c ironically Trump and Desantis project weakness by signalling to Putin that if he stay with it long enough, he's gonna win
    • When American Presidential candidates deny that Ukraine matters, they're telling the world America will not be an effective peacemaker
    Putting too much stock in the words of a bought & captured Party is a lot like believing your own press releases. Ask Poot how that works out.




    • China also believes Russia cannot win its war
    • Neither will China help them win
    Oh yeah they will. They've been itching to since it started, before even. This is the showdown between Authoritarianism and Democracy. Only question is is Russia more valuable as a slave state, or a private gas station with a nuclear deterrent?




    • China has made it clear sovereignty must be respected
    • China is saying Russia can't win, Ukraine can't win, and America can't solve problems
    Ask the Viets and Filipinos if China respects sovereignty...Tibetans?

    Ukraine can and will win this war. Xi can't necessarily sense that from his ivory tower, but he's gotta know Step 1 for the Ukes is to kick the Russians out, one way or another. Then we can talk about DMZs and repatriating thousands of Ukrainian children, among other things.



    • China is positioning itself as an essential peacemaker
    • China recently brokered an agreement between Iran and Saudi Arabia to normalize relations, something China believes America could not accomplish
    • To use a Chinese metaphor, “China is entering the ocean” meaning China expects its role as superpower and mediator to only grow
    • We are talking about Global China. China sees itself as becoming ubiquitous with Chinese influence everywhere

    All they need is someone to prop up their banks every few years...

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    I'm pretty sure that respect for "sovereignty" has an opposite meaning in the ambitions of the two commie nations than it means to the rest of the world. .
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    There's no need for Fisking b/c those aren't my arguments, that's the Chinese perspective. I'm not taking Xi's side. I'm suggesting China’s thinking and strategy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MultiVerse View Post
    There's no need for Fisking b/c those aren't my arguments, that's the Chinese perspective. I'm not taking Xi's side. I'm suggesting China’s thinking and strategy.

    There's no need for bullet points since this is an entertainment venue, and I'm pointing out that China, or at least your version of Greater China, has real problems with reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong View Post
    Attachment 452655

    https://twitter.com/phillipspobrien/...sR_NcRK2VkCfkg

    Up till now most recruits have been coming from poorer, rural areas, from what Iíve seen. Will the war remain popular if the more fortunate class is forced to send their kids to die?
    they have never stopped recruiting. the more fortunate class already have their kids already outside or they know to which office to go with as certain amount of rubles. in any corrupt regions people know the tricks. if not, you are stupid.

    Putin = Poutine in french, yes, as Putain (whore/bitch) is already taken - it sounds a slightly bit different

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marius View Post
    they have never stopped recruiting. the more fortunate class already have their kids already outside or they know to which office to go with as certain amount of rubles. in any corrupt regions people know the tricks. if not, you are stupid.

    Putin = Poutine in french, yes, as Putain (whore/bitch) is already taken - it sounds a slightly bit different
    Ohh... there is a canadian dish.... fries/cheese/gravy = poutine

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