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    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    We were still working on variants quite recently, Boeing is set to support them through 2055, and total production has passed 100k, so there should be a few around, right? With current versions flying on F16's, F35's, Reaper drones, etc.

    Outdated Russian countermeasures certainly wouldn't hurt. But it seems like the increased range going from the tail-chasing AIM-9B to the all aspect L (1980's) or more recent X (both of which can attack a target head-on) would be useful for a cheap drone that gets sent out to project a no-fly zone, say, 10 or 20 km into Russia, right? Point being, that goal may be achievable with more drones rather than more Mig-29's.

    I'm not clear on whether adding passive radar to the old thermal imaging would require a very sophisticated integration of systems in order to work on a TB2, so I'm assuming yes, but maybe you can comment. Still no Reaper, but it's something.
    it’s not thermal imaging, it’s an IR quad detector

    which explains why flares can be an effective countermeasure - drop the really hot shit and bank hard

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    Ukraine




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    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    We were still working on variants quite recently, Boeing is set to support them through 2055, and total production has passed 100k, so there should be a few around, right? With current versions flying on F16's, F35's, Reaper drones, etc.

    Outdated Russian countermeasures certainly wouldn't hurt. But it seems like the increased range going from the tail-chasing AIM-9B to the all aspect L (1980's) or more recent X (both of which can attack a target head-on) would be useful for a cheap drone that gets sent out to project a no-fly zone, say, 10 or 20 km into Russia, right? Point being, that goal may be achievable with more drones rather than more Mig-29's.

    I'm not clear on whether adding passive radar to the old thermal imaging would require a very sophisticated integration of systems in order to work on a TB2, so I'm assuming yes, but maybe you can comment. Still no Reaper, but it's something.
    Somewhere I saw a piece on Russian air armaments. Apparently armaments age, and they don't like being shook up, where flight hours and handling count as shaking. Many of those sidewinders, being western, likely got retired for age or too much handling/flight. They might work, but might not, so it isn't worth sending them to war to find out it failed giving your enemy the upper hand. Hauling duds on a $40M jet is a waste of both the jet and the pilot hours, and might get both lost.

    eta: Thanks for sharpening the sword

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongShortLong View Post
    Somewhere I saw a piece on Russian air armaments. Apparently armaments age, and they don't like being shook up, where flight hours and handling count as shaking. Many of those sidewinders, being western, likely got retired for age or too much handling/flight. They might work, but might not, so it isn't worth sending them to war to find out it failed giving your enemy the upper hand. Hauling duds on a $40M jet is a waste of both the jet and the pilot hours, and might get both lost.
    there’s also been an effort in the us to develop less reactive munitions; obviously a t-72 with a popped turret didn’t benefit

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongShortLong View Post
    Somewhere I saw a piece on Russian air armaments. Apparently armaments age, and they don't like being shook up, where flight hours and handling count as shaking. Many of those sidewinders, being western, likely got retired for age or too much handling/flight. They might work, but might not, so it isn't worth sending them to war to find out it failed giving your enemy the upper hand. Hauling duds on a $40M jet is a waste of both the jet and the pilot hours, and might get both lost.

    eta: Thanks for sharpening the sword
    I was referring to mounting current Sidewinders on TB2 drones, not grabbing garbage from mothballs and sending it out on a B-2. (The reference to the AIM-9B was WRT the Russian copy of that--neither of which are likely to be around anywhere now.)

    So, yes, we're in violent agreement.

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    Dude, seriously did you suffer a brain injury recently or something?

    Comparing a conspiracy theory where high level politicians and celebrities are trafficking kids in the basement of a pizza place vs accounts of a single soldier raping a child during war. Something that has happened as long as there's been war unfortunately.

    Jesus. I used to think you were just some harmless bitter old lefty who would lock himself in his room at the retirement home and dry hump his pillow listening to Democracy Now but lately you've turned into a class A nihilistic asshole. What a shameful excuse for a human you are.

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    Well said and thank you for not quoting him, if only others would

    TAKE THE FUCKING HINT
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    its not my purpose to protect anyone from the inablity to scroll past and ignore social media musings of the demented retired cube jockys who cant even off load a lift
    just log off if ya dont want to read what is being posted/quoted and your special ignoring snowflake mellow is being harshed
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    Sounds like a fine plan.
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

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    All you gotta do is post Dr Rick becoming your parents insults about BERNIE Propane and he'll block you like he blocked me..

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    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    It is a bit odd that he spends so much time here when pretty much everyone despises him. (Ok, Harry met him once and tolerated him). Some people seek out humiliation and spite as a way to punish themselves for past misdeeds. Maybe that ties into the kiddie porn thing? Or he's just a troll and get's off on being a contrarian to everyone and everything. Either way, they are his true colors and are pretty disgusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skifishbum View Post
    its not my purpose to protect anyone from the inablity to scroll past and ignore social media musings of the demented retired cube jockys who cant even off load a lift
    just log off if ya dont want to read what is being posted/quoted and your special ignoring snowflake mellow is being harshed
    Seriously this. I have no idea what Benny is saying in this thread because I skip reading his posts here. Once in a while he offers a divergent view that makes sense elsewhere so he at least used to be of some value. Not here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uglymoney View Post
    Seriously this. I have no idea what Benny is saying in this thread because I skip reading his posts here. Once in a while he offers a divergent view that makes sense elsewhere so he at least used to be of some value. Not here.

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    Ukraine 24 News


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    It’s Sunday right?

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    I’m tough as fuck. But I’m collapse ing.

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    It’s Sunday right?

    Maggot call out. I’m falling into a dark hole

    I’m tough as fuck. But I’m collapse ing.

    I. Need a boost from my fellow adrenaline juuckies Like right now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    But poor Phil Mickleson's career is in the shitter just because he dealt with the Saudis. Go figure
    Actually, the thing Phil said that pissed off the PGA was that he wanted to scare the PGA into giving him more money. And the thing that pissed off the world was him saying he'd make a deal with the devil if it paid big $$$$
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    Quote Originally Posted by highangle View Post
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    I don't think Ukraine is getting Harpoons. If they do, it would be appropriate to sink the Moskva (BSF flagship). But I have heard they are just getting retired Sea Skuas, which have a 28kg warhead. These are very small missiles that are useful against smaller landings craft and patrol craft, but not a cruiser with missile defense systems and probably not even a frigate unless you fire a lot of them and get some secondary explosions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    I don't think Ukraine is getting Harpoons.
    Obviously I don't know shit but there are numerous reports that the UK is/will be supplying them to Ukraine. Google harpoon missiles UK Ukraine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ötzi View Post
    Obviously I don't know shit but there are numerous reports that the UK is/will be supplying them to Ukraine. Google harpoon missiles UK Ukraine.
    I believe it when I see it...

    Sink the Moskva! Russian warship go fuck yourself!
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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong View Post

    "You haven't embraced movement warfare, son."


    The last big battle in Eastern Ukraine, the Germans brought 6000 tanks and 20,000 guns and mortars, and got their ass beat.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kursk

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTT View Post
    It’s Sunday right?

    Maggot call out. I’m falling into a dark hole

    I’m tough as fuck. But I’m collapse ing.

    I. Need a boost from my fellow adrenaline juuckies Like right now
    Go for a walk.. check out the beauty around us.. If the weather sucks, go for a drive instead.. take a break from the doom scrolling..
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    Got caught in a rabbit hole.

    This guy is clearly pro Putin. Pro Russia.
    American that speaks Russian.
    Reporting from the Russian occupied Ukraine.

    But interesting

    https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCbjTWVaRx6jMN5ZYgbqe2_w

    Above is his channel.

    Below is an interesting video

    . . .

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