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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong View Post
    I agree with all that, so I donít think Iím fooling myself, and Iím not trying to fool anyone else. Literally just stating facts as they are known.

    Here's a fact: You're not supposed to point your gun at anything you don't intend to kill.

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    Wheat is at the lowest price since 2/21 and near its January high. If Ukraine grain does hit the market grain prices could collapse.

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    US says it thinks the attack was deliberate, as opposed to the UK reporting from earlier.

    (Am I back in everyoneís good books, or do I have to hang out with Rod and Benny for a while?)

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    Using a dumb missle to target a precise location in a heavily populated area is targeting civilians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    Using a dumb missle to target a precise location in a heavily populated area is targeting civilians.
    Was it a Ďdumbí missile, or just a shitty (but guided) missile?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong View Post
    Was it a Ďdumbí missile, or just a shitty (but guided) missile?
    Probably shitty guided but the wide range of error makes it just as dumb and maniacal

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    Itís not so simple to military escort grain ships. The ship still has to be insured.
    You also have the same problems that would ensue with a no-fly zone. What to do when the Russians violate it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong View Post
    Was it a ‘dumb’ missile, or just a shitty (but guided) missile?
    every projectile is aimed somewhere, it’s gonna hit towards where the barrel is pointed or where you targeted before the trigger was pulled. How well does it do that is a question. The v-2 missiles of ww2 were “guided” missiles where 100% would fall within 11 miles of the target. Hurler was fine we’d with indiscriminate murder. This is little different. They don’t care how many civilians die deliberate or not.


    seeing schoolkids get instruction on how to recognize bombs and booby traps is bullshit, and should never have to happen. Fuck Putin

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    every projectile is aimed somewhere, it’s gonna hit towards where the barrel is pointed or where you targeted before the trigger was pulled. How well does it do that is a question. The v-2 missiles of ww2 were “guided” missiles where 100% would fall within 11 miles of the target. Hurler was fine we’d with indiscriminate murder. This is little different. They don’t care how many civilians die deliberate or not.


    seeing schoolkids get instruction on how to recognize bombs and booby traps is bullshit, and should never have to happen. Fuck Putin
    "Fuck you Amerikinski! Father had to inform on rest of family to even eat Siege of Leningrad! Amerikinski weak! Russian strong!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    Using a dumb missle to target a precise location in a heavily populated area is targeting civilians.
    Boris, Kremlin say to cause mayhem in Poltava Oblast, what is prominent target?

    Oh, here's Kredmash, we could hit that, I guess...

    OK, what else?

    Aha, shopping mall. Between them, dense population.

    Is good Yuri, send it.
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    Another exhibit in Russia is just shitty at war: Russia uses jets to bomb the stuff they couldnít evacuate from Snake Island, 3/4 of which miss

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    Anyone seen good resources for how many weapons Russia can produce with the sanctions in place? Eventually they will probably be able to create domestic alternatives to some of the goods but that will likely take years. Seems like Russia will be operating on a mix of modern and 1950s tech pretty soon.

    Even the artillery, if you are using 60,000 shells a day, thatís a million rounds in 17 days. How many million rounds do they have?


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    this is relevant but short on facts:

    https://www.newsweek.com/russia-puti...ma-law-1720957
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    This is a war of attrition and Russia has more rounds than Ukraine has bodies to absorb them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XavierD View Post
    This is a war of attrition and Russia has more rounds than Ukraine has bodies to absorb them.
    I donít think itís clear thatís the case. (Certainly hope itís not.)

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    From my observations, it is.

    But they will kill a lot of Russians in the process so, cheers to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XavierD View Post
    From my observations, it is.

    But they will kill a lot of Russians in the process so, cheers to that.
    For UKRs sake, Iím hoping youíre wrong on this oneÖ.

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    Trucks/trains + Spare parts will be the limiting factor for the Russian war effort. Not munitions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neufox47 View Post
    Anyone seen good resources for how many weapons Russia can produce with the sanctions in place? Eventually they will probably be able to create domestic alternatives to some of the goods but that will likely take years. Seems like Russia will be operating on a mix of modern and 1950s tech pretty soon.

    Even the artillery, if you are using 60,000 shells a day, that’s a million rounds in 17 days. How many million rounds do they have?


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    upthread there’s a RUSI report with some weapons tear downs. The takeaway was anything modern (post 1990) requires some to a lot of western tech. All of which now embargoed to various success. Thereve been questions since the fall of the wall the capabilities of the remaining industry. Russia has megatons of ex soviet shit sitting around, hence the high failure rate, as well as the de facto tactics of terror and murder. They don’t have other capability

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    Quote Originally Posted by XavierD View Post
    Trucks/trains + Spare parts will be the limiting factor for the Russian war effort. Not munitions.
    Trains apparently need air support these days. Now that they have HIMARS we need to get them longer range rockets to reach a couple of specific bridges. They've already shown off the blueprints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    upthread there’s a RUSI report with some weapons tear downs. The takeaway was anything modern (post 1990) requires some to a lot of western tech. All of which now embargoed to various success. Thereve been questions since the fall of the wall the capabilities of the remaining industry. Russia has megatons of ex soviet shit sitting around, hence the high failure rate, as well as the de facto tactics of terror and murder. They don’t have other capability
    Without going into specifics, Russia has withheld significant warfighting capabilities from this conflict. They are currently content to expend older capabilities and Russian (plus Ukrainian) life to avoid risk to higher capabilities.

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    Entertain us, and please go into specifics.
    Forum Cross Pollinator, gratuitously strident

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    Weird that in Russiaís efforts to de-Nazify UKR, theyíre importing and training Nazis for to fight against UKR:

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    i heard russia is storing their flagship in a secret location.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XavierD View Post
    This is a war of attrition and Russia has more rounds than Ukraine has bodies to absorb them.
    100%

    Of course weíll be called names for pointing out the obvious.

    The Germans had better tanks, better planes, better training, and lost the numbers war.




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