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03-08-2022, 08:33 PM #3126man of ice
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03-08-2022, 08:38 PM #3127
I am skeptical this is happening. I can see a few Intel officers (CIA and/or ISA) operating in country, but based on what I know about how we operate and what I am hearing from friends, I don't think we have personnel (contract or otherwise) conducting offensive operations against the Russians inside of Ukraine.
I could be wrong, but I have seen no evidence to the contrary.
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03-08-2022, 08:39 PM #3128
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03-08-2022, 08:39 PM #3129man of ice
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I feel like internet me of 20 years ago, constantly refreshing, paying attention, getting worked up. Did I say that out loud?
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03-08-2022, 08:40 PM #3130Registered User
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Figured I would get a acronym lecture.
Not my world, it just seems highly unlikely that there aren’t tier 1 guys, CIA, etc running around doing their thing.
Based on my reading of history, it seems more unlikely that we don’t have forces operating in Ukraine.
I guess we can get into the semantics of whether a US citizen contractor under the operational control of the US, getting paid by the US is deniable or not.
I fully expect these volunteer foreign fighters to eventually be held up by Putin as a reason to escalate something.
Edited for clarity, but probably still not clear.
Also, don’t take this the wrong way, but if we are doing it, I would hope some random dude posting on TGR wouldn’t know about it.
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03-08-2022, 08:44 PM #3131Banned
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03-08-2022, 08:45 PM #3132
In other news, I spoke to my mom today. She feels strongly someone needs to murder Putin but that Biden is a coward. So there's that.
"All God does is watch us and kill us when we get boring. We must never, ever be boring."
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03-08-2022, 08:47 PM #3133Registered User
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03-08-2022, 08:51 PM #3134
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03-08-2022, 08:51 PM #3135
I can see a lot of risks with those new to them planes. The maintenance crews are as important as the pilots trained to fly them.
Saw a piece on a British Phantom mechanic and if they are not leaking then their is something wrong. Knowing the plane is a big deal.
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03-08-2022, 08:52 PM #3136man of ice
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03-08-2022, 08:53 PM #3137
International Atomic Energy Agency has lost contact with Chernobyl.
"Let's be careful out there."
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03-08-2022, 09:09 PM #3138
800,000 died when the Nazis took Kyiv. There are tunnels and bunkers all over. I can’t see how they can take the city without destroying it first. If that really starts happening, I bet a sanctuary is established in western Ukraine by NATO, or the UN of it’s not vetoed by the bald Russian fucker. There will be too many refugees.
Then shits going to get gnar.
I hope Putin has other plans.
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03-08-2022, 09:21 PM #3139man of ice
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03-08-2022, 09:37 PM #3140
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03-08-2022, 09:37 PM #3141
Good deal for a russian pilot that wants out:
https://www.reuters.com/article/ukra...-idUKL5N2VB5J0j'ai des grands instants de lucididididididididi
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03-08-2022, 09:41 PM #3142man of ice
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03-08-2022, 09:44 PM #3143
It's no secret that ODA's with augments from other services have been training Ukrainan SOF and conventional units for years and were in country until literally days prior to the invasion. https://www.stripes.com/theaters/eur...n-4343248.html It's pretty eye opening what they've accomplished with a motivated/competent fighting force compared to our forays in the desert.
JSOC/ISA/CIA spent years trying to track down AQ folks living in caves, under foreign protection etc. meanwhile Russian officers are communicating on regular cell networks and armor is moving on routes where cell service is best to maintain morale for soldiers. Our intel folks must have thought it was a joke at first.
I have a relative whose a LCDR in NSW and they speak real highly of the Ukrainians after a half decade of war and training from the West. Not the least bit surprised they're wreaking havok.
Relentless Strike is another good read.
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03-08-2022, 09:45 PM #3144
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03-08-2022, 09:54 PM #3146Registered User
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The only way this ends without colossal bloodshed is for the Russian military to stage a coup and sit Putin down.
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03-08-2022, 10:31 PM #3147
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03-08-2022, 10:43 PM #3148
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03-08-2022, 11:15 PM #3149“I tell you, we are here on Earth to fart around, and don't let anybody tell you different.”
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03-09-2022, 12:44 AM #3150
Apparently we've got 100K troops in thre ground in Europe.
Newspaper sez Biden just sent more.“When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis
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