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05-28-2022, 09:00 AM #7976
Keep in mind Russia still has a significant numerical advantage in terms of artillery, manpower, and equipment on the battlefield of Ukraine. In places along the front Russians outnumber Ukrainians 7-to-1.
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05-28-2022, 09:09 AM #7977man of ice
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So, it's about even?
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05-28-2022, 09:09 AM #7978
Yep
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05-28-2022, 10:02 AM #7979
There was a lot of discussion and push back in this thread about Russian acts of genocide in Ukraine: A panel of 33 international legal scholars and experts has concluded that Russia is “responsible for direct and public incitement to commit genocide”.
The experts find a “genocidal pattern of destruction targeting Ukrainians” with mass killings of civilians, including executions; rape and sexual violence; indiscriminate bombardment; “deliberate attacks on shelters, evacuation routes, and humanitarian corridors”; sieges; and forcible transfer of Ukrainians.
One of the experts, Tanya Domi of the Columbia University School of International and Public Affairs, says, “I’ve never seen anything like this report this early during a conflict. I think the documentation of crimes in Ukraine outstrips anything that we’ve seen in the recent past.”
The International Criminal Court’s chief prosecutor Karim Khan is leading an investigation of war crimes and can bring charges of genocide. He and his team have visited sites of mass killing such as Bucha, northwest of Kyiv, where hundreds of civilians were slain — some of them executed, with hands bound their backs — by occupying Russian troops.
https://eaworldview.com/2022/05/ukra...ssia-genocide/
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05-28-2022, 10:14 AM #7980
Damn, this video is intense. I guess there's another one with this same team destroying an APC or something similar a few days later
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...-line-ukraine/
These Brits and Yanks are bad ass.
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05-28-2022, 10:36 AM #7981
Obvious propoganda is obvious, but the fact that they're going to this effort to create it should be all the proof anyone needs of the Russian state's intent to motivate Russians toward genocide:
https://mobile.twitter.com/dkaleniuk...44810837311489
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05-28-2022, 11:01 AM #7982
Royal Marines don't fuck around. They're not like US Marines, but specialists in small unit actions and commando techniques. They're also hardhat divers, frogmen, freefallers, forward air controllers. Some of their commando brigades have 100% acceptance rates into SBS/SAS. The Royal Marines get the best gear and the best training, and they're always squared away because, like the US Marines, they're the first to go when the shtf.
They also have to pass an interview with a board of NCOs to get badged. If the Royal Marines don't think a chap has a civilized deportment, a winning smile, or a big enough chest, they send him to elocution school, the dentist, the weight room - before he can get his beret and get assigned.
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05-28-2022, 11:22 AM #7983
A lot of these fights are for strategic terrain with entrenched positions and road junctions. Artillery duels. [The civilized world [aka The West] needs to ass up with some loitering munitions and counterbattery radars here.]
Making Яussia great again with the techniques of their grandfathers: systematic mass artillery bombardments followed by massed tanks and APCs full of cannon fodder orc dismounts with orders to shoot every fucking thing they can't rape.
But Ukraine has some good supply chains, and large and very willing army learning things like supply and logistics, and military drone/counterdrone operations...
You know Ukraine was the best deal on a college education in Europe, right?
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05-28-2022, 02:18 PM #7984
Those vids should play on the news every day. I've wondered if night raids at the front of the front and beyond are still a thing like in WWII? My dad accidently volunteered to go on one. But only once.
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05-28-2022, 04:10 PM #7985
Could not agree with you more. Now is the time for the country to invest whatever $ is needed for renewable energy and end any and all reliance on Saudi Arabia and OPEC. Our entire society would reap the benefit of such investment for generations to come. The faster oil becomes worthless, the faster murderous dictators like Putin and MBS become irrelevant.
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05-28-2022, 10:20 PM #7986
Just imagine if we spent the Iraq war budget on renewable energy…
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05-29-2022, 07:39 AM #7987
No shit
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05-29-2022, 09:15 AM #7988man of ice
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Dropping say $40B on the renewable industry might do more to defang the Russians in the long term than weapons will
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05-29-2022, 10:12 AM #7989
Preach.
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05-29-2022, 10:23 AM #7990I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.
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05-29-2022, 10:48 AM #7991Rod9301
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Or dropping 40 billion on preventing forest fires. Which would help the environment and people. But unrealistic, seeing how powerful the weapons lobby is.
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05-29-2022, 11:03 AM #7992
Bobby Stainless should join them
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05-29-2022, 11:04 AM #7993I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.
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05-29-2022, 11:05 AM #7994
Man, I could spend 40 billion on good shit...The world would be so much better if somebody were to give me 40 billion dollars!
Ukraine news – live: Russia has depleted its modernised equipment, military analyst says
LIVE – Updated at 08:33
Ukrainian military analyst Oleh Zhdanov has said Russia’s aggressive push in Donbas and other parts of Ukraine could backfire as it has depleted its modernised equipment.
He said Russia was deploying 50-year-old T-62 tanks “which means that the second army of the world has run out of modernised equipment.”
The analyst’s comment comes as Russia is also reportedly mulling redeploying troops in Kyiv.
UK’s Ministry of Defence (MoD) also said the Soviet-era T-62 tanks, which are up to 60-years-old, have been taken out of “deep storage” to be used in southern Ukraine, where Russian troops are seeking to occupy the seized territory.
The MoD said these tanks are “particularly vulnerable” to anti-tank weapons, adding that the move to use them points to “Russia’s shortage of modern, combat-ready equipment”.
Meanwhile, Ukraine said its forces may retreat from their last pockets in Luhansk city in the East to avoid being captured by advancing Russian forces.
British Prime Minister Boris Johnson says it is vital that the West send more heavy weaponry to Ukraine as Russia is making “palpable progress” in the country’s East.
Key Points- Russia considers new attack on Kyiv
- Putin’s troops making ‘palpable progress’ in Donbas - Johnson
- West should send Ukraine more heavy artillery, UK PM says
- Use of US long-range rockets would cross red line, warns Russia
- Russia forced to re-mobilise Soviet-era T-62 tanks due to losses
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05-29-2022, 03:06 PM #7995
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05-29-2022, 06:35 PM #7996Registered User
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Long term = 20-30 years; Ukraine a distant memory by then. Need to do both. But don't include chewing gum.
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05-29-2022, 08:43 PM #7997
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05-29-2022, 10:00 PM #7998
Who estimates this shit?
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05-29-2022, 10:06 PM #7999
Ukraine
That was MIT. It doesn’t pretend to be exact. $5.7 T.
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05-29-2022, 10:19 PM #8000
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