Ukraine

[subtle plague]

Is there really a difference?

Riser 3 would have known!

And I like cono's blitzkrieg meth binge.

[Cono Este]

It’s so sad, yesterday, at the Jewish center, where I workout everyday, and volunteer. I met the most amazing old woman. You could see her beauty as a younger woman. She was a German,, 92 yrs old, and once a famous model. She was so eager to speak with anyone, because Americans are so fuckiing unfriendly and un inviting and I got stuck in the lobby speaking with her. She told me how she bought a Ferrari Dino, yellow, picked up at the factory and drove it home to Birmingham, UK, In 1973, where she resettled, and oddly where I’m from. The membership dude told me how she was once a famous Luis Vutton model. I told her my story, she told me hers, she was from Frankfurt, and it turns out we our families bombed eachother. But yet, I am now her friend, because when I explained the usual, Americans are so shallow and unfriendly, she nodded her head.no one talks to her. We’re friends now, maybe I’ll go mow her lawn, something you hateful people need to learn, while you destroy your spoilt ass selves, forgiveness.

This country will get there eventually get there, You’ll have to, when war finally comes to your shores. Instead of arm chair quarter backing everything.

losers.

[MultiVerse]

Coño is here to justify torture chambers and death pits in Russian occupied regions, and play the victim. Not necessarily in that order.

Multi verse needs to send Benny his free gold pass.

Coño's misrepresentation of my post is as pathetic as his support for Putin. I wrote that both Hitler and Stalin were evil. Stalin was bad. Hitler was worse. Instead of telling insufferable British stories, Coño should try reading Bloodlands by Tim Snyder or watch his Yale lectures online.

[Cono Este]

I’m going to take another day off, go for a 30 mile ride before the weather turns cold here. Maybe go hit some balls afterwards, see how that slipped disc is behaving.

You ungrateful, and seriously mixed up American Liberals,( not to be confused with, principled liberals through the rest of the world) enjoy the thought of reaping what youve sowed next November. We’re all laughing at you.

I hope the mods wake up and do something before we’re all too ashamed to log on again.

[MultiVerse]

Right, Coño's support for Putin is all about resentment. Coño would condemn an entire nation to occupation and filtration camps just for payback on Americans he dislikes. It's reprehensible.

To underline his point, Shoigu recently explicitly said Russia's invasion will continue until after US presidential elections:

"Consistent implementation of measures and activity plans until 2025 will allow us to achieve the goals we set."

The "special military operation" in Ukraine will last at least until 2025 - Shoigu.

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...83130285834284

[mcphee]

Is there really a difference?

Yes, one is done with purpose and vigor and the other is done angrily and probably dry.

[J. Barron DeJong]

Hey dumbfuck, this is the co-founder of Wagner:



Sporting some cool Nazi tattoos.

[J. Barron DeJong]

Or how about this:

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/p...e-duty-troops/

There are white supremacists in the US army. Guess we should just let Russians come and take us over.

Or maybe we could realize there are some shit people everywhere.

[MultiVerse]

The search for neo-Nazis under the bedsheets reflects American progressive hysteria, not Ukrainian reality. This is an important read because 'Nazis' fueled by Russian propaganda is a talking point for both the left and the right in America:

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/a...aine-neo-nazis


And, FWIW, 1930s liberal Superman busting up dictators Hitler & Stalin, 'Guilty of modern histories greatest crime'

[J. Barron DeJong]

My great uncle was a tail gunner in a Lancaster bomber during WWII.

No cool stories from him though, because he was killed fighting Nazis, so I never met him.

Again, go fuck yourself.

[Core Shot]

Having options is nice:

Attachment 470873

https://x.com/euromaidanpress/status...sR_NcRK2VkCfkg

Is it kamikazi if there’s no human inside??

Who writes this shit.

[Viva]

Yes, one is done with purpose and vigor and the other is done angrily and probably dry.

GOD DAMMIT!

I've been doing it wrong all this time?

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[Toadman]

The good old, never trust an 85 year old German you meet in the brasilian rainforest.

Conjos beheivor is like a person entering a room, farting and leaving.

I guess he gets a hard one from the engagement in here.

I was in West Germany on a study abroad program back in the late 80's. I remember being on a Straßenbahn going to the theater. It was packed, and there was a young couple on the car. A Turkish man and his German girlfriend. An elderly German who may have been a bit drunk started making racist comments about the Turkish man and telling him he should go back to his country. I was surprised by the reaction in the car, as several of the older Germans told the old man to shut up. Others made comments that it was the Turkish Gastarbeiters that helped rebuild Germany after WWII.

I couldn't help but think that this older German was probably of the age that he had fought in WWII. Not saying he was a Nazi but that was my impression of the events and his language. One thing the Germans back in the 80's reminded me is that they took Hitler very serious. It was not something you ever joked about.

[J. Barron DeJong]

“Now, the latest thing in Russian propaganda on Ukraine is this incredibly stupid "GOTCHA!" Ukraine "has a colorful Nazi history" because a 98-year-old Waffen-SS veteran, an ethnic Ukrainian who has lived in the West for the last 75 years, was mistakenly given an ovation in the Canadian parliament.

It's now being presented as if during WWII and up to this time, Ukraine has been stuffed full of no one but sworn Nazis and most various Nazi collaborators, while ethnic Russians have always been the only ones to fight and defeat Nazism.


So this somehow gives Putin the right to declare today's Ukraine "a Nazi state" and pursue the country's annihilation via the most brutal war of conquest since the very WWII.


I love this torrent of imbecilic WWII takes from geniuses who seriously believe that citizenship defines a human being's DNA, which, therefore, can be somehow targeted via ethnicity-centered biological weapons.


What these beautiful minds who wouldn't find Ukraine on a map comfortably forget about is the estimated 400,000 ethnic Russians who served with Nazi Germany's various military formations between 1941 and 1945.


Ever heard of General Vlasov's Russian Liberation Army (ROA) corps (120,000-130,000 troops), part of the Wehrmacht in 1942-44?


Or the 29th Waffen-SS Division "RONA" ("The Kaminski brigade" responsible for the slaughter of Warsaw that shocked even the senior SS command)? Or the Russland Division (8,000-10,000 troops)?


Or of some 80,000 Russian Cossacks who served Adolf Hitler, including as part of the 15th SS Cossack Corps and the 1st SS Cossack Cavalry Division?


Or maybe, since we're talking about Waffen-SS, we should also be talking about, I don't know, the Viking Division formed of SS volunteers from north European countries -- Norway, Denmark, Belgium, The Netherlands?


Or the 13th SS-Division Handschar of Bosnian Muslims? Or the 33rd SS Division Charlemagne of some 7,000 French collaborationists?


Or a number of American Volksdeutsche that once crossed the ocean to fight for the Fuhrer in Europe?


Do those figures say those nations also deserve to be enslaved and bombed into the stone age in 2023 from the point of view of some perverted high moral ground?


No?


What those acid tongue Kremlin bootlickers on Twitter are not talking about is over 6 million Ukrainians that fought Nazi Germany as part of the Red Army.


Also, 2.5 million Ukrainians who were decorated for valor in combat. And some 250,000 ethnic Ukrainians who fought as part of Allied militaries in Europe and beyond.


Also, let's also talk about up to 10 million Ukrainians, civilians and combatants, who were killed in WWII, with over 700 Ukrainian cities and 28,000 villages destroyed in hostilities.


That's not very helpful to the imbecilic all-Ukrainians-were-all-Nazis narrative, is it?


And it's not a fucking rocket science.


It's the purposeful ignorance spread by apologists of Russia's obsession with territorial grabs and its chauvinistic sense of impunity "because Nazis from 80 years ago."”

https://x.com/iaponomarenko/status/1...sR_NcRK2VkCfkg

[Bunion 2020]

Russia's top diplomat suggested the country is ready to consider peace negotiations with Ukraine should Kyiv meet its key condition.

Sergey Lavrov over the weekend gave the first major indication that Moscow is prepared to end the war after 19 months.

He noted the Kremlin would recognize Ukraine's borders before the invasion if President Volodymyr Zelensky and his Government backtracked on plans to join NATO or any other military alliance.

During an outing on Saturday, Lavrov said that the Kremlin "recognized the sovereignty of Ukraine on the basis of the Declaration of Independence which it adopted upon leaving the USSR."

The Foreign Affairs Minister added: "One of the main points for us was that Ukraine would be a non-aligned country and would not enter into any military alliances.

[skaredshtles]

Seriously - there is no fuckin' WAY Ukraine will fall for this horseshit.

Buncha fuckin' Kremlin LIARS.

[J. Barron DeJong]

…no fuckin' WAY Ukraine will fall for this horseshit.

I can think of someone who will though.

[skaredshtles]

I can think of someone who will though.

Wholly predictable.

[PNWbrit]

Coño is here to justify torture chambers and death pits in Russian occupied regions, and play the victim. Not necessarily in that order.

Long before he was justifying Putin he sang the praises of South American juntas and apartheid.

[LHutz Esq]

Lavarov's plan could be workable.

1. Everyone gathers in a, somewhat neutral, place like Hungary,
2. Russia agrees to leave and Ukraine agrees to stay non-aligned. We can call it the "Budapest Agreement",
3. Russia leaves the occupied territories
4. Ukraine treats the Budapest Agreement exactly how Russia treated the Budapest Memorandum, Charter of the United Nations, Helsinki Act, Minsk Agreements
5. Ukraine joins whatever alliance it wants to. Or not.

[J. Barron DeJong]

Russia must increase military spending by up to 70% because of the war that has been "unleashed against us," Russian presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Thursday.

"It is obvious that such an increase is absolutely necessary, because we are in a state of hybrid war that has been unleashed against us," Peskov said.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...s/70988906007/

Ah yes, a war unleashed against them, on foreign land. Cunning move by the true aggressor - Ukraine.

[Bunion 2020]

From the 1st paragraph:

Russia must increase military spending by up to 70% because of the war that has been "unleashed against us," Russian presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Thursday.

[subtle plague]

No nuclear threats? Peskow is getting soft.

[jono]

No nuclear threats? Peskow is getting soft.

Running away from Prigo showed Pootin's fearfulness. Now the only way for the regime to stay credible with a nuclear threat is to claim they were getting ready to nuke Moscow if Prigo entered the city. 1812 redux. Greatest victory in Russian history.

But that might not sit well in Moscow.

[rod9301]

How many people died this year, on both sides?
And how much money was spent? 50 billion?
And look at the map in this article to see how much territory each side won: negligible.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...us-ukraine-war

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