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09-21-2022, 08:43 AM #9726man of ice
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Hey everybody supports recycling, right?
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09-21-2022, 08:48 AM #9727
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09-21-2022, 08:49 AM #9728
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09-21-2022, 08:52 AM #9729
With all Russia’s dead, injured, migrated, and hidden young adults, this mobilization will be scraping the bottom of the barrel. Putin is throwing gas on an already severe slo-mo demographic disaster. MRGA a la Putinski!
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09-21-2022, 08:57 AM #9730
He's mobilizing reservists. These were conscripts and contract soldiers who already served and now have normal civilian jobs.
This will piss people off and hurt their economy further because the 300K have full time normal people civilian jobs.Originally Posted by blurred
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09-21-2022, 09:03 AM #9731
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09-21-2022, 09:44 AM #9732
Good thread on the mobilization challenges -
https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/stat...70599535214598"We don't beat the reaper by living longer, we beat the reaper by living well and living fully." - Randy Pausch
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09-21-2022, 09:50 AM #9733Rod9301
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Definitely not good news
Putin: "We will definitely use all means available to defend Russian territory. That’s not a bluff.”
I certainly hope they will not use nuclear weapons, but he did say they are not of the table.
The worry is that if the next week's referendum in the occupied territory shows that people want to join Russia, then all these territories become part of Russia, and attacks on them will be considered attacks on Russia.
To me, this sounds like a dangerous escalation
Btw, you guys might know this, if true, but i read today that Russia has 200,000 troops fighting and Ukraine has 700,000.
Apparently Ukraine has the largest army in Europe. Not sure if this includes Russia, as i always thought they have a big army.
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09-21-2022, 10:00 AM #9734
Good read. My quibbles are this mobilisation is for reservists, already have training, though stale. The training cadres already got deployed. Who will train the reservists up? And what equipment will they be outfitted with? Old Cold War shit. It will be a large ineffective force. Probably more useful for defense.
It's more than doubled in size in 7 months. That's what happens if you get invaded and do total mobilisation.Originally Posted by blurred
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09-21-2022, 10:03 AM #9735
Ukraine doesn't have 700,000 troops 'fighting.' While Ukraine's army is now quite large due to the Russian invasion, the bulk of its armed forces are made up of citizen volunteers who joined regional defense units which perform auxiliary tasks so that the smaller better trained core army can focus on the frontline task of fighting the Russian invasion. Per summit and in contrast with Russia, Ukraine mobilized so in some sense the 700K number understates the number of Ukrainians involved in fighting the Russian army.
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09-21-2022, 10:26 AM #9736
Russia used to have a big army but then they went broke and everybody had to steal to eat.
It's good that you "worry" about escalation. It should keep your abstraction layers from contemplating the continuing crash of the Russian markets...
What's that quaint Russian saying?...Oh yeah, "Play pussy, get fucked", right?
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09-21-2022, 10:31 AM #9737It's a war of the mind and we're armed to the teeth.
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09-21-2022, 10:34 AM #9738
Gravity is very grave in Putin’s Russia.
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-ally-...zation-1744944Forum Cross Pollinator, gratuitously strident
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09-21-2022, 10:46 AM #9739
Friedman's OP in the Times today is a good read.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/20/o...ine-putin.html
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09-21-2022, 12:19 PM #9740Registered User
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Of course the occupied region will vote unanimously for annexation to Russia, because only the invaders are allowed to vote. In fact, it's nothing more than a formality as victory has already been counted and declared!
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09-21-2022, 12:21 PM #9741
But if they really want to be Russian why deny them the honor. We could have peace! And then we can get back to my Investments
/rodIt's a war of the mind and we're armed to the teeth.
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09-21-2022, 12:35 PM #9742
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09-21-2022, 12:42 PM #9743
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09-21-2022, 12:46 PM #9744
Seems you guys are figuring this all out for the rest of us through your exhaustive research and intelligent discourse.
I gather from reading your posts the Ukrainians are reclaiming some of the territory previously occupied by the Russians. Any idea when this conflict will be over?
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09-21-2022, 01:00 PM #9745
December 2024.
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09-21-2022, 01:02 PM #9746
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09-21-2022, 01:02 PM #9747
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09-21-2022, 01:39 PM #9748
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09-21-2022, 01:44 PM #9749
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09-21-2022, 01:48 PM #9750
Well then, carry on.
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