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05-24-2022, 01:24 PM #7876
Ukraine
I say fuck giving the bully your lunch money… but that’s just me. And once again, Kissinger can go fuck himself. What a waste of oxygen that douchebag is. It’s incredible to me that anyone would take him seriously given his track record.
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05-24-2022, 01:35 PM #7877
Just to be clear, I’m absolutely not for pressuring UKR to give up land for a negotiated peace at this time, especially since they themselves aren’t currently interested in doing that.
First priority for any negotiation should be trying to achieve what UKR themselves want, not what we or anyone else does.
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05-24-2022, 01:41 PM #7878
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05-24-2022, 01:43 PM #7879
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05-24-2022, 01:45 PM #7880
It's analogous to the situation in UA. Same thing; larger scale. 'Just move.'
If you've lost it all there is nothing to lose.
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05-24-2022, 02:00 PM #7881
There's no way they build up the industry to replenish those tanks anytime soon. I wonder how soon China will start encroaching on Siberia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chines...icing_strategy
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05-24-2022, 02:19 PM #7882
So, again, I’m absolutely not advocating for UKR to give in/give up. And I wouldn’t say at this point that they’ve ‘lost it all’, and there’s no way they would - nor should we expect them to - negotiate an end to the war that requires them to ‘give it all up’.
But stepping outside of this specific war, do you really think it NEVER would make sense to negotiate to end a war with an aggressor, even if that could require giving up land that was yours to begin with? Cause that’s all I’m trying to say.
For example, Native Americans could easily make a moral claim to American land. Does anyone think it would be in their best interest to start a war against the US to try and reclaim it? Is there any way such a war would leave them in a better situation? That the cost would be worth it?
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05-24-2022, 02:19 PM #7883
China invading Russia to seize territory is a recipe to open up the canned sunshine. Russia's preoccupation with mobile launchers and intermediate range missiles is only half about NATO.
Originally Posted by blurred
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05-24-2022, 02:22 PM #7884
We don’t need ancient men like Kissinger around. Why is he not dead?
But at the same time, we need to consider everything. My opinion, wait out the SOB. At this rate, he will be taken out by his own.
But move to fast, beat their ass badly etc. that is a risk.
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05-24-2022, 02:41 PM #7885Registered User
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This is the biggest lie of the Biden Administration now, and media outlets are just starting to report and unravel the cognitive dissonance of the Administration saying one thing, but doing another via their actions.
They (The Biden Admin) don't want peace in Ukraine (like they are trying to sell in the media and to the American People), they want Putin OUT by any means necessary.
Based on the foreign policy savviness of this Admin, we will be officially in WW3 by the end of the year, or when the food crisis happens. Whichever comes first.
Two stars quietly added to the CIA wall yesterday. I wonder where these brave US citizens met their deaths...
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05-24-2022, 02:45 PM #7886
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05-24-2022, 02:45 PM #7887
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05-24-2022, 02:46 PM #7888
That's a fully incorrect statement. They absolutely want peace, but not at the expense of the country of Ukraine. Putin is clearly pulling the strings and by now it should be clear that as long as Putin is in power and there's a single Russian soldier, this war will continue. Just another sock puppet.
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05-24-2022, 02:48 PM #7889
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05-24-2022, 02:55 PM #7890
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05-24-2022, 03:11 PM #7891
Aww, poor babies. Who will think of the fashionistas?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ctions-ukraineForum Cross Pollinator, gratuitously strident
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05-24-2022, 03:17 PM #7892
Google trends Russia indicates Russians care more about about IKEA, McDonalds, H&M, Zara, Facebook and Instagram shutting down than they do the war in Ukraine.
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05-24-2022, 03:19 PM #7893
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05-24-2022, 03:21 PM #7894
The problem with ancient ass Kissinger's theory:
The Russians ONLY wanted Chechnya…. They will stop after that.
The Russians ONLY wanted Georgia…. They will stop after that.
The Russians ONLY wanted Crimea…. They will stop after that.
The Russians ONLY wanted Luhansk… They will stop after that.
The Russians ONLY wanted Kyiv^Z^Z^Z^Z Donbass… They will stop after that.
If only there were a pattern.Originally Posted by blurred
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05-24-2022, 03:27 PM #7895
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05-24-2022, 03:33 PM #7896Rod9301
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05-24-2022, 03:37 PM #7897
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05-24-2022, 03:43 PM #7898
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05-24-2022, 03:44 PM #7899
In the first quarter, Russia’s economic growth ‘slowed down more than expected.’ The Russian Finance Ministry reported VAT collection in April 2022 was less than half what it was in April 2021.
Sales of new cars are down -80%, inflation is at 18%, food price are up 20% and the entire economy likely contracts between -7% to -10% for the second quarter. As much as -15% for the entire year.
Meanwhile Russian state media tells people how lucky they are...
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05-24-2022, 04:41 PM #7900
That's why these nuke threats are kind of a joke. If Russia actually went there we'd bomb them back into the the 19th century and take care of a major headache in the process. If you provide your enemy with a political get out of jail free card, well then you have it coming. I think there's about a 0.0000001% chance of this happening.
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