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05-16-2022, 12:00 PM #7801
Hey even a blind nut finds a squirrel sometimes.... errr. I for sure said a bunch of shit, glad you found some value in it.
Unfortunately most would rather embrace their ego and find things to condescend about others than embrace personal and collective responsibility.__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ________________
"We don't need predator control, we need whiner control. Anyone who complains that "the gummint oughta do sumpin" about the wolves and coyotes should be darted, caged, and released in a more suitable habitat for them, like the middle of Manhattan." - Spats
"I'm constantly doing things I can't do. Thats how I get to do them." - Pablo Picasso
Cisco and his wife are fragile idiots who breed morons.
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05-16-2022, 12:01 PM #7802__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ________________
"We don't need predator control, we need whiner control. Anyone who complains that "the gummint oughta do sumpin" about the wolves and coyotes should be darted, caged, and released in a more suitable habitat for them, like the middle of Manhattan." - Spats
"I'm constantly doing things I can't do. Thats how I get to do them." - Pablo Picasso
Cisco and his wife are fragile idiots who breed morons.
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05-16-2022, 12:50 PM #7803
Seems like we have an ask from Turkey:
https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/statu...-EkcD0f8NrL2sg
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05-16-2022, 12:55 PM #7804
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05-16-2022, 01:27 PM #7805
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05-16-2022, 02:10 PM #7806"We don't beat the reaper by living longer, we beat the reaper by living well and living fully." - Randy Pausch
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05-16-2022, 02:47 PM #7807
Wow, Azovstal fighter apparently being evacuated:
https://twitter.com/iaponomarenko/st...TVTMOknGwKTQSw
Sorry. Should have read closer. This may be being ‘evacuated’, not actually evacuated. Apparently wounded soldiers being taken to a hospital in Russian occupied UKR territory.
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05-16-2022, 02:54 PM #7808"We don't beat the reaper by living longer, we beat the reaper by living well and living fully." - Randy Pausch
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05-16-2022, 03:40 PM #7809
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05-16-2022, 06:23 PM #7810Registered User
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05-16-2022, 06:47 PM #7811
I'm pretty bad at finding things a second time on Twitter, but I believe I saw that captioned photo almost a week ago showing all of those Russian vehicles.
So just calling them Ukrainian seems surprisingly lazy, but if you listen to the voice on that video it sounds like they also had the copy read by an AI. Which Russia built and made available free online years ago to help promote creation of fake English-language news content for YouTube.
We've been at war for a while but losing is making them really busy.
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05-17-2022, 12:05 AM #7812
"President Putin is making low-level tactical decisions that would normally be decided by an officer in charge of as few as 700 Russian troops, western military sources say."
"Mit dem Angriff Steiners wird das alles in Ordnung kommen."
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05-17-2022, 01:33 AM #7813
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05-17-2022, 05:06 AM #7814
uh, one side tried to violently overthrow the government and a freedfairbelection to keep their side in Power. maybe you missed it?
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05-17-2022, 10:01 AM #7815
The cracks appear on russian tv as the spin doctors run out of spin
https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/st...iPPbGMRdqslwyg
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05-17-2022, 10:35 AM #7816
Under the umbrella of Putin spin from the Economist
https://www.economist.com/interactiv...the-putin-show
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05-17-2022, 10:37 AM #7817
Thanks, I watched the 6 min version of that video. So why is the Kremlin allowing this level of truth in a major broadcast? First step in preparing public for a ‘revised’ strategy?
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05-17-2022, 11:10 AM #7818"fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
"She was tossing her bean salad with the vigor of a Drunken Pop princess so I walked out of the corner and said.... "need a hand?"" - Odin
"everybody's got their hooks into you, fuck em....forge on motherfuckers, drag all those bitches across the goal line with you." - (not so) ill-advised strategy
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05-17-2022, 11:52 AM #7819
Yeah managing expectations is probably a big part of it. Even though Russia is controlled by an authoritarian regime it's not North Korea. The Kremlin still has to manage and respond to public opinion.
Counterintuitively repressive regimes can strengthen their control by allowing the appearance of dissenting opinions. From the Kremlin's perspective floating a trial balloon about the war not going according to plan allows it to detect danger based on public response. It helps the Kremlin craft a more effective message.
The second thing it does is ensure there's no unified anti-war public voice. If the Kremlin denies reality for too long its propaganda losses all effectiveness. Presenting an alternative point of view at a time when support for the war among the public is still high preemptively disorganizes and identifies opposition.
Most of all what the Kremlin doesn't want is negative information flowing horizontally between citizens. They don't want mass anti-war movements. They want the information to flow vertically so that even if individual Russians oppose the war they're not collectively blaming the regime en masse.
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05-17-2022, 03:40 PM #7820
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05-18-2022, 11:23 PM #7821
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05-19-2022, 05:33 PM #7822
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/com...tm_name=iossmf
“The ombudswoman's hotline for free psychological assistance receives reports of sexual crimes committed by the occupiers. In May 17 alone, the victims made 56 calls, including on the rape of children.
This was stated by the Verkhovna Rada Commissioner for Human Rights Lyudmila Denisova.
She noted that after the liberation from the occupiers of cities and villages of Kharkiv region, most calls to the psychological help line have been received from there during the last week.
According to Denisova, 10 people applied for sexual violence in one hour on May 17. Among them are 8 minors, including two 10-year-old boys.
The Commissioner spoke about several appeals: “Triplets are 9 years old, girls. Raped by rashists, have severe genital injuries. All this in front of her mother, she is in shock. The mother, in whose eyes her nine-month-old daughter was raped by candlelight, turned. A one-year-old boy was raped by two people and died. "
Denisova also said that two occupiers raped a two-year-old girl. She survived. Raped men aged 67 and 78 also applied.
"This is the genocide of the Ukrainian people with special cruelty! This is a violation not only of the norms of international humanitarian law, but also of its very essence, the morals of the civilized world , "the commissioner said.”
The crimes being reported are almost beyond belief.
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05-19-2022, 05:38 PM #7823
Fucking disgusting. I think I posted about that a couple weeks back and Benny was being an Putin apologist about it.
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05-19-2022, 05:51 PM #7824
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05-20-2022, 07:11 PM #7825
So, the writing is a little..,flowery, but this is an interesting read.
https://thedebrief.org/know-no-mercy...by-themselves/Forum Cross Pollinator, gratuitously strident
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