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04-04-2022, 02:25 PM #5801
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04-04-2022, 02:30 PM #5802
Kommisar Binkov runs the numbers
Good analysisOriginally Posted by blurred
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04-04-2022, 02:45 PM #5803
You talk like you know anything more than he does.
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04-04-2022, 02:48 PM #5804
if you start with the assumption Ukraine isn’t areal country, then believe you’ve bought off or undermined a bunch of the power structure, then the plan begins to make sense. Once that failed, the rotten piece of Russian shit couldn’t adjust. Now they are gonna keep murdering civilians and throwing Russian troops into the grinder until they ( and the western trash that runs apologia for Putin) get some result they can pretend they were trying for all along. Likely the DNR and LNR and the seaside.
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04-04-2022, 03:12 PM #5805click here
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04-04-2022, 03:19 PM #5806
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04-04-2022, 03:26 PM #5807
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04-04-2022, 04:19 PM #5808
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04-04-2022, 04:35 PM #5809click here
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I sure don't know. There's also the question of possible outcomes. If Russia is severely weakened, closing out its foreign occupations becomes possible. There would remain the difficulty of internal Russian change, as you point out. Currently, there's some hopeful signs that Ukraine can win its war, but no guarantee, and the signs may be illusory. IMO, Europe should maximally support Ukraine, and the other western allies as well.
It's difficult to see long term recovery without removing Putinism. I see only low probabilities of removing Putinism. One outcome is a Korea style DMZ. Still no peace there, but long term recovery for one combatant, and stability for both. If this is the path, I sure hope that DMZ is in Russia. That said, I'm no fan of a future Kim Jong Putin. One nuclear armed isolated dictator is too many already.
Ultimately, the Russian leader is forced to mostly follow the desires of the Russian people. With the current nature of media control there, Russian leaders will continue on the imperial Russia theme. This is a problem in many other dictatorships as well. When the Russian diaspora cannot convince their families of simple truths, what does anyone else do, and how can Russia change?
I see ideas about economic strains causing a blame game, resulting in regional fragmentation of Russia. That seems low probability.
In short, I see only low probability of any path to a just conclusion.
That would help
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04-04-2022, 04:40 PM #5810Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that
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04-04-2022, 04:51 PM #5811
Germany after WW2 gives me a touch of hope, but I think the fact that Hitler offed himself made that transition possible. Don’t see Putin taking himself out; certainly not if the war isn’t on his literal doorstep.
It’s well above my pay grade. Hopefully some smart people are coming up with possible plans.
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04-04-2022, 04:58 PM #5812
Benny, whatabout you whatabout up your fucking whatabout, and take your whatabout to whatever whatabout covid thread whatabout?
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04-04-2022, 05:05 PM #5813
Why do you still live in this country, benny?
shirley there must be a better country out there where you’re already a local?
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04-04-2022, 05:07 PM #5814
Benny would enjoy the ideological purity of Somalia.
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04-04-2022, 05:20 PM #5815
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04-04-2022, 05:29 PM #5816
Hitler? Isn’t he the guy that took over the entirety of Europe, a lot of the Soviet Union and a large part of North Africa? I know it didn’t end well but seems a bit more successful than Putin.
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04-04-2022, 05:29 PM #5817
Ok, outtake from Dumb & Dumber... as one of the most epic failures in modern history Putin's war with Ukraine is a second order effect of the Third Reich. The more the Kremlin says Ukraine is Nazified, the more Hitler-like Putin becomes. The Russian army's Z symbol is interchangeable with the swastika.
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04-04-2022, 05:47 PM #5818
Ok, grandpa who smells like overcooked Hormel and Dinty Moore... just as Lenin's tomb is a communist plot, just as you're a tool of murderous autocrats posing as a man of the people, Putin & Assad remaining in power does not make them any less monstrous.
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04-04-2022, 05:52 PM #5819man of ice
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04-04-2022, 06:08 PM #5820
How much does it hurt NATO and help Putin that Germany won't/can't commit to the energy boycott?
Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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04-04-2022, 06:21 PM #5821
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04-04-2022, 07:55 PM #5822
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04-04-2022, 08:03 PM #5823
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04-04-2022, 08:04 PM #5824click here
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Hard to say. Trashing the German economy would not help. Germany has committed (or proposed) substantial cuts, getting to zero over a few years. How much effect could they have if they cut immediately? There'd be a short-term effect on Russia as energy went unsold. Most of it likely finds a new market. That could have long-term effects that are detrimental to NATO, say if Russia builds a pipeline to another country (not sure the practicalities of long pipelines). Losing cheap energy could destroy (make uneconomic) dependent industries in Germany.
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04-04-2022, 10:01 PM #5825
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