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01-26-2022, 11:40 AM #1
Blitzed: Drugs in the third reich
Great book by Norman Ohler. Read it today, couldn’t put it down. I wasn’t aware the extent to which meth & speedballs were the very architecture behind the nazi war machine.
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01-26-2022, 06:46 PM #2Registered User
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I saw a recent TV documentary on this topic and it was fascinating. On History Channel or Smithsonian channel.
All drugged up and able to stay focused to battle for days on end. Once the Reich figured out it was a problem, they had a bunch of addicts for troops. They cut the pick supply down, then the troops had to beg their families to send pills to them on the front line.
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01-26-2022, 07:39 PM #3
French were all lax n drunk as oppo was a 2-3 day trek away…Germs made it in a day. Surprise!
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01-26-2022, 09:08 PM #4Registered User
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Hope the current Cultists aren't tweakers.
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01-27-2022, 11:53 AM #5
Yea, History Channel covered this, kinda nuts. But nuts doesn't begin to describe the nazis.
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01-27-2022, 01:47 PM #6
Well, look where the facists are coming from in US
then compare
The ten states with the most meth-related seizures are:
Michigan (220)
New York (220)
Indiana (144)
Illinois (129)
North Carolina (127)
California (114)
Pennsylvania (105)
Tennessee (102)
Ohio (60)
Florida (59)
Hope isnt much to go on
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01-27-2022, 05:11 PM #7
Blitzkreig Bop!
And an even bigger cultural influence in Rock and Roll: Because of this phenomenon, that the Allies soon found out about from prisoners (you want to try some of my pills, interpreter?), is that this pretty much led almost directly to Elvis's drug addiction. He was pretty much a straight arrow when he got sent to Germany, but they were feeding all those kids in the tank division, where he was Sarge Elvis, little black pills, the new weapon of war. He comes home with a taste for Dex, mommy dies, he gets sad, and the rest is history when he finds the right doctor.
The Japanese were buzzed, too.
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01-27-2022, 06:50 PM #8
David Nutt talks about this in the interview he did with Peter Attia last November: https://peterattiamd.com/davidnutt/
The Allies also were handing out amphetamines like candy, but using amphetamine sulfate instead of methamphetamine which was preferred by the Germans and Japanese. The effects of the two drugs are identical except meth lasts twice as long, 12 hours instead of 6 hours. So, when the Allied soldiers would get back from missions the drugs had worn off and they'd get some sleep, but the German and Japanese soldiers were still spun up for hours and ended up chronically sleep-deprived. Choice of stimulants probably played a non-insignificant role in the outcome of the war.
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01-27-2022, 07:31 PM #9
Yeah, the Germans ran out of tanks and planes, the Japanese, planes.
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01-27-2022, 08:19 PM #10Registered User
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01-28-2022, 10:43 AM #11
Not after we destroyed their factories, and a lot of the skilled workers died on the Eastern front, while ours were protected by an ocean. Oh, and, cutting off oil to the Japanese helped, too.
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01-28-2022, 10:48 AM #12Registered User
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OFFS, Benny, get a sense of humor.
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01-28-2022, 10:51 AM #13
War is Hell, son.
Besides, most of the factories near and at the end was slave labor, usually captured soldiers and children.
Hitler from the start was just looking for a negotiated land grab. He didn't expect the Americans to join in. Kinda like Putin today.
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01-28-2022, 11:05 AM #14
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01-28-2022, 04:33 PM #15
I thought it was when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.
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01-28-2022, 04:35 PM #16
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01-28-2022, 04:46 PM #17
If I was a tail gunner in a B17 I’d take all the amphetamines. All of em.
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01-28-2022, 04:51 PM #18
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01-29-2022, 07:22 PM #20man of ice
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Back to the churning out war materiel thing, the German shit was better than ours but also way more complicated and difficult to manufacture. I read somewhere that a Sherman tank had 8,000 parts and a Panzer had 42,000. They took way longer to make them one by one, meanwhile we were popping Shermans off the assembly lines in Detroit like they were going out of style. If it took 4 destroyed Shermans to beat a Panzer, no problem, we'll just make more.
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01-29-2022, 08:06 PM #21
We should trade tales about combat deployment sometime, you sound like an expert. What service were you in?
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01-29-2022, 09:13 PM #22
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01-29-2022, 09:58 PM #23man of ice
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01-29-2022, 11:45 PM #25
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