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    They are making progress on the rice fire, it’s only up to 1000 acres and the weather looks much cooler. The terrain it is in looks awful though. Fingers crossed it goes to 100%.


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    They are repopulating some of the evacuation zones.

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    Definitely cooler last night. Fingers crossed.

    Speaking of nighttime: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...ring-advantage

    $8000/hr but worth it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frorider View Post
    Definitely cooler last night. Fingers crossed.

    Speaking of nighttime: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...ring-advantage

    $8000/hr but worth it?
    That’s the going rate for a large Type 1 helicopter:

    https://www.fs.usda.gov/sites/defaul...02018-2021.pdf


    And yes, they are worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldnew_guy View Post
    …And yes, they are worth it.
    From two perspectives anyway - the boots on the ground (who admittedly aren’t paying the bills) and for the public that aren’t convinced anything good is happening unless they see huge helicopters and air tankers working.

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    It was incredible having a type 1 on a quick turn around supporting a crew. I was never a fan of their use “checking the fire” far away from crews, but it met someone’s objectives.

    135 jumpers committed in Ak today.

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    Some fallout from the Calf Canyon/Hermits Peak fire origins.
    https://www.santafenewmexican.com/ne...5ca980909.html

    tl;dr - the Santa Fe forest supervisor is getting sent to DC. My (armchair Monday morning quarterback) take: while the chain of command does give her some oversight responsibility for the fuckups that led to the largest fire in NM history, a lot more responsibility lies with the subordinate manager - the district ranger that (should have) signed off on the plan for the Hermits Peak Rx and approved the start - and the local fire program manager (district FMO).

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    ‘All that’s needed is a spark’: why the US may be headed for a summer of mega-fire

    This quote caught my eye.
    “The grind just never stops,” said Kelly Martin, the president of Grassroots Wildland Firefighters, a firefighter non-profit advocacy group. Crews who have been fighting the fires across the southwest are only just starting what will be a long and hard season, she said: “The incredible toll that it takes physically and mentally is excruciating and cumulative on wildland firefighters like we have never seen before. People are burned out. The pay is oppressive and the conditions are extraordinary.

    Wildland firefighters have carried the burden, and it has exacted a devastating toll, with high rates of suicide, substance abuse and divorce. Low-pay and poor working conditions have caused many to resign, especially at the federal level where salaries are the lowest. That’s left holes in crewing preventative treatments and on the biggest blazes.

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    Scientists now have decisive molecular evidence that humans and chimpanzees once had a common momma and that this lineage had previously split from monkeys.

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    Arsonist started brush fire in Truckee yesterday. Fortunately it was stopped at 12 acres--helped that it was next to the airport. No homes in the area but if the fire had taken out the regional sewage plant--serves the Truckee North Tahoe area--it would have been bad.

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    Thats ^^ kinda big.

    Using the new google map tool, there are a lot of fires in that area of AK!!

    Witness smoke rolling into the Washoe Valley today. Feels too early this year

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    It looks like wawona (Yosemite) could be fucked

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    Helicopter crashes into Salmon River while working on Moose Fire

    https://wildfiretoday.com

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    Oak fire just started in Mariposa county CA, 1800 acres in a few hours. I believe this is the 3rd fire in that county this month. Not looking great

    https://www.fire.ca.gov/incidents/2022/7/22/oak-fire/

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    Yeah that Oak fire is already at 9000 acres. We were up on the rim trail today and saw major smoke down South but it was far away. Tonight it appears to have crept all the way to the edge of the basin.

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    It’s been fairly quiet so far in central OR
    Our first incident - report is as of Friday mid PM
    A wildfire that started shortly after 11 a.m. today is currently at 10-15 acres. Firefighters responding to the incident include 5 engines, 2 -20 person hand crews, the Redmond Hotshots, several single-engine airtankers, one large airtanker, and Central Oregon Task Force 1 for structural protection.
    By 3 p.m. a Type 3 Incident Management Team had been assigned and the fire had been 100% lined with a dozer line on the west side of the fire and the dozer was moving toward the east side of the fire.
    It’s grown to 25 acres and 95% contained
    Is that a lot of resource to throw at 25 acres? There’s maybe three sheds in that area, and maybe a mile to real structures. Ground is pancake flat

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    Aftermath in NM.
    Two found dead, third person missing in burn scar floodwaters
    Deadly floodwaters feared by residents and public safety officials since the early start of the summer monsoon have struck the Hermits Peak/Calf Canyon burn scar.

    Two people were found dead Thursday afternoon in the Mineral Hill area northwest of Las Vegas, N.M., as the Tecolote River rose and breached its banks, said Chief Tim Nix of the Cabo Lucero Volunteer Fire Department.

    His agency and others were still searching Friday for a third person who went missing during the storm.

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    Oak fire looks bad, lat report was 14k acres, guessing it goes to 20 this next report.


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    As of 7 pm:

    Fire activity was not as extreme as it has been in previous days. Firefighters made good headway today. On the north side, the fire passed Sweetwater Ridge and made a hard push towards the community of Mariposa Pines. Three strike teams were able to hold the fire at Bear Clover Lane, protecting Mariposa Pines. Crews worked to hold the line at Footman Ridge, on the northeast side of the fire. Line was completed around the community of Lushmeadows. Fire line is holding on the east side. Crews are working to complete and hold line on the south side. The fire continues to be fuel and terrain driven. The fire perimeter is moving into the Furgeson Fire burn scar in the northeast side. Damage inspection teams began surveying the affect areas today.

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    Seems like the Oak fire is about to enter the Merced Canyon and from there have a direct path to Yosemite valley. They can't control it in the current light wind conditions, once the wind picks up . . .

    CalFire was winning against both the Electra and Washburn fires, now this monster comes along - kudos and vibes to the underpaid and overworked firefighters.

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    Woke up to smoke in Tahoe from the oak fire. Seems like smoke season is now a reg thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcski View Post
    Woke up to smoke in Tahoe from the oak fire. Seems like smoke season is now a reg thing
    Sure feels that way last 5 years or so, doesn't it? "Smoke" comes between Summer and Fall.

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    Or you could look it at from the perspective that NorCal/OR/WA were nearly fire-free thru late July, and thus resources weren’t spread too thin, but then we had 3 fires in one region that were likely all human caused.

    So maybe the only way to have some years smoke free is thinning out the idiots and arsonists.

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