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Thread: Wildfire 2022
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04-12-2022, 07:45 PM #26Registered User
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04-12-2022, 09:49 PM #27
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04-14-2022, 09:04 PM #28
A really, really good article and letter on how we are fucking over fed wildfire fighters, and ourselves.
https://wildfiretoday.com/2022/04/14...y-he-resigned/
Stop the madness.
Fires breaking out all over, two dead in NM
https://www.kob.com/new-mexico-news/...idoso/6444612/
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04-14-2022, 10:51 PM #29
That sucks. Thanks for the link MS. I'm older and a littler wiser but it's mind boggling to think that I wanted to spend a few years as a wildland firefighter 15 years ago. It's also so frustrating how easy it was for me to advance to a GS7 as a fish squeezer and the amount of responsibilities I had compared to a hotshot squad boss.
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04-14-2022, 11:12 PM #30Registered User
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Good for that guy. USFS is a shitty place to work. I work for a different agency now in a totally different role and it is 180 degrees different. It doesn’t have to be this way.
No one should put up with the shit they pull. Outside looking in now, the classification system for WFF is 100% absurd. Every hotshot squad boss should be a GS 9 or 11, captains 11/12, superintendent 12/13.
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04-15-2022, 01:54 PM #31
I was watching the movie "Only the Brave" (dumb title) about a real Arizona hot shot crew that was killed. Have any of the wildfire pros here seen it and care to comment?
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04-15-2022, 02:07 PM #32
I didn’t just see it, I was an extra (aka “background artist” ) in it. I am also more than passingly familiar with the actual events because of my time in the southwest fire command structure.
It’s been a few years since I’ve seen it, but it was probably the least bullshit movie on the topic I’ve seen so far. At least as far as the actual fire scenes went the “guts and glory” bullshit is pretty inevitable, but a lot of it was fairly accurate. I had worked fairly closely on fires with one of the advisors back in the day, and I think he kept it as closely on track as he could. The non-fire scenes…well, it’s Hollywood.
I had a couple of small-world moments around working on that movie, but I have to do something right now, so maybe I’ll bring those up later.
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04-20-2022, 03:00 PM #33nice night for an evening
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04-20-2022, 11:17 PM #34
The Cooks Peak fire in Ocate (N NM) has now jumped to 20,000ac and 0% contained. My buddy in ABQ texted me Monday morning that the fire had started the night before, right as they were leaving their cabin about a mile west of the origin. As of now it's grown North and East and I think their cabin is still ok, but it's super super close. They got married right there last June; we went and spent a couple nights. Beautiful area and totally insane to think it's all just gone.
And for any former Boy Scouts - this one is torching north, straight towards Philmont. It's probably 5mi south of their property now. Shitty. I was there in 2001...
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04-21-2022, 10:40 AM #35
Mom's place in Ruidoso, NM was fortunately spared but their best friend's home was not.
These winds man. Frustrating.
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04-21-2022, 02:42 PM #36
Glad for the parents, Jax. I was just out for a (windy) ride, the column from the Hermit (correction: Cook’s Peak) Peak fire (kind of near Las Vegas NM) was clearly visible and growing from almost 50 miles away ver some high ridges.
Dry and windy for the foreseeable future.
Edited because it was the column for Cooks Peak Fire I saw from afar, not Hermit’s Peak.
https://www.santafenewmexican.com/ne...19e79193b.htmlLast edited by Meadow Skipper; 04-21-2022 at 05:23 PM.
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04-21-2022, 06:10 PM #37
Tomorrow could be ugly for all of New Mexico.
https://forecast.weather.gov/showsig...4#.YmHxiS9MEgo
Red Flag warning for winds 35 to 45, gusts to 60. RH 5 to 10 percent.
URGENT - FIRE WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Albuquerque NM
307 AM MDT Thu Apr 21 2022
...RED FLAG WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 1 PM TO 9 PM MDT
THURSDAY FOR THE NORTHEAST HIGHLANDS, NORTHEAST PLAINS AND THE
EAST CENTRAL PLAINS DUE TO STRONG WINDS, LOW HUMIDITY AND AN
UNSTABLE ATMOSPHERE...
...RED FLAG WARNING IN EFFECT FRIDAY MORNING THROUGH FRIDAY
EVENING FOR ALL OF NORTHERN AND CENTRAL NEW MEXICO DUE TO EXTREME
FIRE WEATHER CONDITIONS, INCLUDING VERY STRONG WINDS, LOW
HUMIDITY AND AN UNSTABLE ATMOSPHERE...
.While winds today are not expected to be as strong as the past
few days, widespread breezy to windy conditions are still forecast
to redevelop in the northeast highlands and across much of the
eastern plains. The continued above normal temperatures, very dry
air and unstable conditions will create critical fire weather
again today.
There is high confidence that a widespread extreme and
potentially catastrophic fire weather event will occur on Friday.
Strong to damaging winds will impact all of northern and central
New Mexico on Friday while the very dry and unstable conditions
persist.
NMZ101-102-105>107-109-220300-
/O.UPG.KABQ.FW.A.0027.220422T1500Z-220423T0300Z/
/O.NEW.KABQ.FW.W.0028.220422T1500Z-220423T0300Z/
Northwest Plateau-North Central Mountains-Northwest Highlands-
Middle Rio Grande Valley-Sandia, Manzano and Gallinas Mountains-
West Central Highlands-
307 AM MDT Thu Apr 21 2022
...RED FLAG WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 9 AM TO 9 PM MDT FRIDAY...
The National Weather Service in Albuquerque has issued a Red Flag
Warning...which is in effect from 9 AM to 9 PM MDT Friday. The
Fire Weather Watch is no longer in effect.
* AREA AND TIMING...Northwest Plateau, North Central Mountains,
Northwest Highlands, Middle Rio Grande Valley, Sandia, Manzano
and Gallinas Mountains and the West Central Highlands Friday
morning through Friday evening.
* 20 FOOT WINDS...South to southwest 35 to 45 mph with
occasional gusts to 60 mph on Friday.
* RELATIVE HUMIDITY...Ranging from 5 to 10 percent Friday
afternoon.
* IMPACTS...Any fires that develop will likely spread rapidly
and will be hard to control. Long range spotting and extreme
fire behavior will be possible. Outdoor burning should not be
done.
PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...
Please advise the appropriate officials or fire crews in the
field of this Red Flag Warning.
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04-22-2022, 08:04 AM #38
It was difficult to watch, because it’s relatable and so incredibly sad.
I’m glad they did it in a respectful way. I’m glad they got the humor and the camaraderie right.
There are aspects of making it into a movie that seem to necessitate warping some of the operational nuts and bolts analysis of what actually went wrong that day, I think this film manages that in a forgivable way.
Found out recently my old swamper was one of the main stunt drivers for the shoot. Which is cool.
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04-22-2022, 08:09 AM #39
Philmont and Vermejo are spectacular firegrounds. I had many many fires in that country, it’s a classic.
Here to post this:
For those of you mags still out on the line, my thoughts are with you! Make good decisions, make lifelong friends, make irreplaceable memories, make us proud, make a stack of money and make it back home safe and sound for ski season.
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04-22-2022, 10:35 AM #40
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04-22-2022, 09:24 PM #41
50 mph winds all day in Santa Fe. Tonight the smell of smoke is heavy in town.
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04-22-2022, 09:25 PM #42
First resource order of the year for us head to NM on Monday. Crazy.
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04-22-2022, 09:48 PM #43
^ Stay safe.
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04-22-2022, 09:53 PM #44Registered User
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04-23-2022, 10:29 PM #45
^^ I was hoping April would have dropped the drought a bit in CA.
Was talking today with some friends about how lucky it is we got the big storms we did, and how fucked we would be without any of the 3. Without the October AR we probably have an awful and explosive fire season that ran right into the second AR in December. Without the December AR we basically have no ski season. Without this last series of April storms we are going into the summer with 30% less snow pack than this time last year, which was the earliest melt ever.
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04-23-2022, 11:01 PM #46
Hope everyone in NM stays safe. My mom's in placitas, thankfully a relatively safe area fire wise, but wow. looks like the whole state is lighting up.
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04-24-2022, 09:28 AM #47
Beyond the 100th meridian. Although apparently the transition from a wet to a dry climate has shifted to the east since Powell made the observation.
https://news.climate.columbia.edu/20...w-moving-east/
The solid line is the geographic 100th meridian. The dotted line is where the shift currently happens--and corresponds very well with the drought monitor map.
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04-24-2022, 09:48 AM #48
Thanks for the link OG. I really should read Stegner's book. It's been sitting on my coffee table for far too long without a page turned.
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04-26-2022, 12:24 PM #49
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05-05-2022, 07:25 PM #50
Out of state resources driving aimlessly around Upper Michigan today with the heaters on…
your taxes hard at waste. :eyeroll:
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