Tecnica ZeroG Peak - another light boot for 2022 - 3

[Benneke10]

Tried these on at backcountry and they fit a lot better than the used demo pair I tried out a while back that probably had packed out liners. I'm gonna buy a pair to try em. I broke the Gignoux boots that I've raved about here (crashed hard and don't blame the boots) and need something to hold me over. Couple questions:

Is there a way to stow the cable for the top buckle so it isn't dangling while skinning? Keeping it latched seems to restrict the ROM noticeably.

Do I still get warranty coverage in the US if I buy from a non-US retailer like Alpinstore or Corbetts?

[Benneke10]

Just received the boots... how TF do I get the liner out of these? They fit well but don't walk any better than the skorpius so Im not inclined to keep them, but want to try with a different liner.

[robnow]

Liners in/out isn’t easy, actually wrecked the gaiter a bit trying to get a Zip Fit in. Easier to pull the upper shell all the way back, then pull the liner out. Vice versa, hold the back of the gaiter while trying to get a liner in.

[Benneke10]

Ended up sending them back, they fit pretty well and feel like they would ski quite well, but I can't get over how poor the rearward ROM is, even with different liners. The walk more is markedly worse than the my Skorpius so that kind of negates the ~200g of weight savings they provide.

[riff]

Thread drift, but i sure do love my skorpius- salted away a minty pair for later….


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[jacob_dbu]

Thread drift, but i sure do love my skorpius- salted away a minty pair for later….


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More thread drift but the thing that worried me about the Skorp was the little plastic tab holding the power strap / upper buckle down. Have y'all had any issues with that?

[djhutch]

The tight gaiter and difficulty getting both the foot and liner in and out of the Peaks are the only thing I don't like, love everything about this boot

[Benneke10]

More thread drift but the thing that worried me about the Skorp was the little plastic tab holding the power strap / upper buckle down. Have y'all had any issues with that?

I have 140 days on the old Skorps, the only issue I have had is the velcro wore out but they replaced it.

[summit]

Looking closely at replacing these Alien RS. I had to do 27.5 in the RS so I could get enough width. As a bonus I got extra cuff height. How is cuff height in the Peak?

I'm 26.5 in the ZGPT. So I'm guessing 265/275 in the Peak is a tossup...

My wife, who's a great skier, is on a pair of zero g pro 130 and thinks they are a lot softer than the 2020 model

Why would that be?? I have the original year yellow boot and it will need to be replaced next year or this...

[Kreemcheese]

Looking closely at replacing these Alien RS. I had to do 27.5 in the RS so I could get enough width. As a bonus I got extra cuff height. How is cuff height in the Peak?

I'm 26.5 in the ZGPT. So I'm guessing 265/275 in the Peak is a tossup...

I am a 26.5 in the ZGPT and got 26.5's for testing this spring, holy moly they are not 26.5 lengthwise. They were super tight and if they were my own boots I would have probably punched them quite a bit lengthwise or got the 27.5 from the start.

Ended up getting the new Scarpa F1 XT as my new light(ish) touring boot after reviewing the tecnica, dalbello quantum evo, dynafit blacklight, salomon mtn s/lab and the scarpa f1xt. Did not do measurements on the cuff heights though..

[Benneke10]

The cuff height on the Peak is very good for a light boot. Probably best in class or similar.

[STLHD]

I have a 26.5 ZGPT and am happy with the 26.5 Peak Carbon out of the box. I found the fit to be pretty similar, but not sure I'm in the majority on this one. I was skiing the F1 LT in 27 as my lightweight boot previously, for further reference. The Peak skis better particularly fatter skis (I've been using it with my BMT 109s). Still a lightweight boot though, so I still have a need for the ZGPT.

[fleaches]

Looking closely at replacing these Alien RS. I had to do 27.5 in the RS so I could get enough width. As a bonus I got extra cuff height. How is cuff height in the Peak?

I'm 26.5 in the ZGPT. So I'm guessing 265/275 in the Peak is a tossup...

I have zgtps in 26.5 and the 27.5 peaks feel only a little longer, if at all. Not sure what to compare the cuff height to but it seems very tall compared to similar boots.

The shell shape is pretty different from the 0gpt, I have a wide foot and have had it punched to hell for width. Peak I can *almost* get away without punching.



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[upallnight]

Just took delivery of a Peak Carbon.

I'm a 25.5 high-performance fit in the ZGPT. I've got many hundreds of days of touring on them, including long, flat lake crossings and 10k vertical days, scrambling on rock/low 5th-class, minor ice climbing in pursuit of skiing, etc. I require some shell punches for width in the forefoot and some length around the big toe. I rock the ZGPTs with an Intuition Godiva — I get the performance of a wrap liner and have slightly better ROM with the lower height of the Godiva vs the men's version.

I've used the F1LT in a 27, and I have the Peak Carbons in 26.5. The length feels perfect for me, as does the forefoot width to the point that I'm going to ski them a few days in the stock liners and without any shell work. They feel a bit looser in the Achilles area than my ZGPTs, but those have molded wrap liners.

I'm not sure that a 25.5 would have made that area any tighter, and I suspect it would have been too short for me in a way that punches my night have fixed.

Sadly, I tried to see if I could get an Intuition wrap liner (Godiva 25) or tongue liner (Pro Tour 26) in the boot, unmolded. I could not.

Anyone getting Intuitions in these? Any tips?

I just now learned the Pro Tour comes in high, medium and low volume.

[CaliBrit]

Just took delivery of a Peak Carbon.

I'm a 25.5 high-performance fit in the ZGPT. I've got many hundreds of days of touring on them, including long, flat lake crossings and 10k vertical days, scrambling on rock/low 5th-class, minor ice climbing in pursuit of skiing, etc. I require some shell punches for width in the forefoot and some length around the big toe. I rock the ZGPTs with an Intuition Godiva — I get the performance of a wrap liner and have slightly better ROM with the lower height of the Godiva vs the men's version.

I've used the F1LT in a 27, and I have the Peak Carbons in 26.5. The length feels perfect for me, as does the forefoot width to the point that I'm going to ski them a few days in the stock liners and without any shell work. They feel a bit looser in the Achilles area than my ZGPTs, but those have molded wrap liners.

I'm not sure that a 25.5 would have made that area any tighter, and I suspect it would have been too short for me in a way that punches my night have fixed.

Sadly, I tried to see if I could get an Intuition wrap liner (Godiva 25) or tongue liner (Pro Tour 26) in the boot, unmolded. I could not.

Anyone getting Intuitions in these? Any tips?

I just now learned the Pro Tour comes in high, medium and low volume.

TIL about the Godiva liner and it may be the liner I’ve been looking for all along.

[upallnight]

TIL about the Godiva liner and it may be the liner I’ve been looking for all along.

Don't expect it to have the rear flex of any of these "tour" liners with the soft spots/cut-outs around the achilles — but IME it skis a bunch better and is WAY more durable. I get at least a season (100-150 days for me) out of mine. [I'm 100% backcountry.]

[upallnight]

Is the length of the lower cable fixed? Seems like the position of the buckle and catch are fixed.

Put my first day on the boots today — VERY impressed with the sociability. I skied them with unmolded stock liners (don't think there is much material to move even if the stock liners are molded).

I'm one click away from the tightest position over the forefoot, hence the question. Guess there isn't much liner to pack out, though, either!

Got a little heel lift when skiing hard/flexed forward — but much less than I expected and have experienced with other boots in this category. I think an Intuition would help (I wonder if the Pro Tour LV would have more material than the stock liner to make it worth it while also fitting in the boot, unlike the Pro Tour MV; I'm also not sure if the Tour Wrap sucks).

Haven't used any Intuition "Tour" liners in many years; maybe they are better now. They used to break down for me VERY quickly.

I don't think I could have gone to a smaller size due to length as I did with my ZGTPs.

[upallnight]

Popping in with an update:

The conclusion—I fit an Intuition Pro Tour (MV) in and molded it.

More info—
I skied the stock liners for 10 days or so. They're obviously super thin & light — and they didn't ski *that* bad.

I went up a shell size vs my ZGTPs (which have a very aggressive fit). While skiing I would get some heel lift. Felt like I had room around the Achilles and instep. I didn't have the opportunity to try on a smaller shell size—my gut tells me that while it would surely be shorter, I don't know that it would have solved my issue with the extra volume around the foot.

After being unable to get an unbaked Pro Tour MV into the boots (let alone how difficult I'd imagine a baked liner would be!), I got my hands on a few sizes of the Intuition Tour Wrap bc there were reports of that fitting in the boot. That liner just sucks, though. Yeah, it probably has great ROM, but it's a totally different material than the more desirable (skiing-wise) Intuitions, and I'm fairly sure it would break down quickly.

I figured out a way to more reliably fit the Intuitions into the boot: Just fold over the top cm of the stretchy "over boot". This simple trick keeps the liner from getting hung up on the stretchy material which provided a shocking amount of resistance. Suddenly getting the liner in was easy!

The Palau Power LT liner seemed more interesting than the Tour Wrap, but it didn't quit take up the volume I wanted. Seemed like it would tour pretty well if It works for someone.

I was able to fit the Pro Tour LV into my boots. There's not much material to them, so they won't take up much space if that's your issue. I felt I could ski them without baking them (which I feel like would help their longevity a bit). However, I was still getting a little movement in the Achilles.

This brought me back to trying the Pro Tour MV once more. With the new technique I got the liner into the boot! I was also able to get my foot in there — solid around the heel and WAY TOO TIGHT around the instep and toe-box. I'd have to bake them to solve that issue, but I figured it would be a worthwhile trade-off as the heel would be what I needed.

Of note: With the stock liner, I was maxed out (as in max tightness) of the lower buckle. This made me nervous with an out-of-the-box boot.

With the Intuition MVs, I molded them so I'm on the 1st or 2nd position in both lower and upper cuff.

I definitely prefer Intuition's true alpine-style wrap liners for skiing. I pointed out above I like the Godiva in my ZGTP. (See earlier post for rationale.)

The Pro Tour is unlikely to last as long as an alpine wrap liner, but it does have more ROM which is important in a boot in the Peak Carbon's category.

I probably added about 100g in terms of liners. I'll measure that. The ski performance jumped probably 10-20%, and ROM got about 5-10% worse.

I have hundreds of days on my ZGTPs in the last couple years. The walk-mode of the Peak Carbon is so much better that I was OK giving up a little ROM.

I got the boots right at the new year and put about 18 days on the stock liners — including pushing a K2 Dispatch 120 (186cm) around. I actually expected to use the Peak Carbon for only my longest days, usually involves miles of flat lake crossings to begin and end, and the ZGTP for everything else.

What's shocking is that since I got these boots on Dec 30th, I have not once used my ZGTPs, and I've toured every single day.

I'm mostly skied them in softer snow, but I've been impressed at how I can actually PUSH the boot, and they can drive a larger ski. Compared to other boots I've skied in the class, these tour similarly but feel most like I'm actually SKIING.

FWIW, a friend broke the lower buckle on this 3rd day out. I'm on Day 26 or 27 with them... but I tend to be more on the smooth end of skiers, and I'm fortunate to mostly ski softer snow. I have railed them on corduroy after skinning the local resort. They're a pleasure going uphill in that situation (yeah, a true race boot is WAY lighter) — and they've been great carving 2d snow.

Hope someone finds something helpful here. That simple trick of folding over the stretchy cuff helped a TON — and was so simple I couldn't believe I didn't get that immediately. It's what lead me down the path of trying the lighter/thinner liners (Tour Wrap, Pro Tour LV, and Palau Pro LT).

Durability of Pro Tour liner & the boot overall? We'll see.

[Benneke10]

I'm mostly skied them in softer snow, but I've been impressed at how I can actually PUSH the boot, and they can drive a larger ski. Compared to other boots I've skied in the class, these tour similarly but feel most like I'm actually SKIING.

Happy that you're psyched on the boots! Walking around the shop these feel like the rearward ROM is substantially worse than other boots in the class, but perhaps that isn't as noticeable when you're actually in the mountains?

[djhutch]

Walking around the shop these feel like the rearward ROM is substantially worse than other boots in the class, but perhaps that isn't as noticeable when you're actually in the mountains?

The rearward ROM is worse (maybe not substantially, but definitely less than my Travers). I don't notice it when skinning but DO notice it when scrambling and walking downhill (I use on some ice climbs, hence the walking downhill part).

[Boissal]

Popping in with an update:

The conclusion—I fit an Intuition Pro Tour (MV) in and molded it.

More info—
I skied the stock liners for 10 days or so. They're obviously super thin & light — and they didn't ski *that* bad.

I went up a shell size vs my ZGTPs (which have a very aggressive fit). While skiing I would get some heel lift. Felt like I had room around the Achilles and instep. I didn't have the opportunity to try on a smaller shell size—my gut tells me that while it would surely be shorter, I don't know that it would have solved my issue with the extra volume around the foot.

After being unable to get an unbaked Pro Tour MV into the boots (let alone how difficult I'd imagine a baked liner would be!), I got my hands on a few sizes of the Intuition Tour Wrap bc there were reports of that fitting in the boot. That liner just sucks, though. Yeah, it probably has great ROM, but it's a totally different material than the more desirable (skiing-wise) Intuitions, and I'm fairly sure it would break down quickly.

I figured out a way to more reliably fit the Intuitions into the boot: Just fold over the top cm of the stretchy "over boot". This simple trick keeps the liner from getting hung up on the stretchy material which provided a shocking amount of resistance. Suddenly getting the liner in was easy!

The Palau Power LT liner seemed more interesting than the Tour Wrap, but it didn't quit take up the volume I wanted. Seemed like it would tour pretty well if It works for someone.

I was able to fit the Pro Tour LV into my boots. There's not much material to them, so they won't take up much space if that's your issue. I felt I could ski them without baking them (which I feel like would help their longevity a bit). However, I was still getting a little movement in the Achilles.

This brought me back to trying the Pro Tour MV once more. With the new technique I got the liner into the boot! I was also able to get my foot in there — solid around the heel and WAY TOO TIGHT around the instep and toe-box. I'd have to bake them to solve that issue, but I figured it would be a worthwhile trade-off as the heel would be what I needed.

Of note: With the stock liner, I was maxed out (as in max tightness) of the lower buckle. This made me nervous with an out-of-the-box boot.

With the Intuition MVs, I molded them so I'm on the 1st or 2nd position in both lower and upper cuff.

I definitely prefer Intuition's true alpine-style wrap liners for skiing. I pointed out above I like the Godiva in my ZGTP. (See earlier post for rationale.)

The Pro Tour is unlikely to last as long as an alpine wrap liner, but it does have more ROM which is important in a boot in the Peak Carbon's category.

I probably added about 100g in terms of liners. I'll measure that. The ski performance jumped probably 10-20%, and ROM got about 5-10% worse.

I have hundreds of days on my ZGTPs in the last couple years. The walk-mode of the Peak Carbon is so much better that I was OK giving up a little ROM.

I got the boots right at the new year and put about 18 days on the stock liners — including pushing a K2 Dispatch 120 (186cm) around. I actually expected to use the Peak Carbon for only my longest days, usually involves miles of flat lake crossings to begin and end, and the ZGTP for everything else.

What's shocking is that since I got these boots on Dec 30th, I have not once used my ZGTPs, and I've toured every single day.

I'm mostly skied them in softer snow, but I've been impressed at how I can actually PUSH the boot, and they can drive a larger ski. Compared to other boots I've skied in the class, these tour similarly but feel most like I'm actually SKIING.

FWIW, a friend broke the lower buckle on this 3rd day out. I'm on Day 26 or 27 with them... but I tend to be more on the smooth end of skiers, and I'm fortunate to mostly ski softer snow. I have railed them on corduroy after skinning the local resort. They're a pleasure going uphill in that situation (yeah, a true race boot is WAY lighter) — and they've been great carving 2d snow.

Hope someone finds something helpful here. That simple trick of folding over the stretchy cuff helped a TON — and was so simple I couldn't believe I didn't get that immediately. It's what lead me down the path of trying the lighter/thinner liners (Tour Wrap, Pro Tour LV, and Palau Pro LT).

Durability of Pro Tour liner & the boot overall? We'll see.

Very good review, thanks. One thing I didn't see (or missed): what ski are you on?
I'm in the same boat with boots, 3 seasons in ZGTP, extremely tight fit, sniffing around for a new boot next season, and these are on the short list. Not many reviews around yet, and too many from people who are more into uphill running than actual skiing so most of the feedback is about the ROM not being best in class without any info about how the damn boot actually works with real skis (ie >105 underfoot and >1400g). I'm happy with the ROM on the ZGTP, obviously it could get a lot better but it's never stopped me from banging out huge days. I'm not willing to sacrifice more than a tiny bit of downhill performance though and that's where I need more feedback!

[fleaches]

Very good review, thanks. One thing I didn't see (or missed): what ski are you on?
I'm in the same boat with boots, 3 seasons in ZGTP, extremely tight fit, sniffing around for a new boot next season, and these are on the short list. Not many reviews around yet, and too many from people who are more into uphill running than actual skiing so most of the feedback is about the ROM not being best in class without any info about how the damn boot actually works with real skis (ie >105 underfoot and >1400g). I'm happy with the ROM on the ZGTP, obviously it could get a lot better but it's never stopped me from banging out huge days. I'm not willing to sacrifice more than a tiny bit of downhill performance though and that's where I need more feedback!

I have some of these and have been skiing them on 0g 95s. They are super stiff for a 1kg class boot (although ROM is a little worse than most). I will probably try them with my 1800g Billy goat tours at some point and expect they will be totally fine in consistent snow (but I could be wrong).

That being said I really don't think they are in the same class as zgtps or other heavier boots. If the ROM on those didn't bother you then I'd maybe stick with that class. When people say they are really stiff I feel like that means close to a skorpius, not an overlap boot.

The fit also pretty different, I have had massive work done on my zgtps and they still aren't exactly comfortable. I have been touring on the peaks unaltered so far and while I plan to get the toebox widened a bit they have been tolerable out of the box.

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[Boissal]

^^ Thanks, super helpful as well

[auvgeek]

Very good review, thanks. One thing I didn't see (or missed): what ski are you on?
I'm in the same boat with boots, 3 seasons in ZGTP, extremely tight fit, sniffing around for a new boot next season, and these are on the short list. Not many reviews around yet, and too many from people who are more into uphill running than actual skiing so most of the feedback is about the ROM not being best in class without any info about how the damn boot actually works with real skis (ie >105 underfoot and >1400g). I'm happy with the ROM on the ZGTP, obviously it could get a lot better but it's never stopped me from banging out huge days. I'm not willing to sacrifice more than a tiny bit of downhill performance though and that's where I need more feedback!

I hope the Skorpius is on your shortlist, also. I feel like the Skorpius (although it sadly doesn't fit my foot, even after lots of work) is that rare boot that is just great for the vast majority of "normal" touring (if it fits).

[fleaches]

Went to the bootfitter to get these punched a bit for width (they are pretty close) and he said they are really tough to punch and he has cracked two pairs so far. Not sure if someone with a lot of experice with light boots would have a problem but maybe worth knowing if you are looking at these.

They are pretty high volume to begin with so maybe most people won't be punching them a ton. I definitely thought they were supposed to be easier than something like the f1lt but now sure where I got that idea.

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