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01-09-2022, 07:59 PM #1Registered User
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What is the ultimate East Coast Firm Snow Ski
Now hold up...I'm not talking good conditions, and don't think you can get away with just saying a race ski. I'm talking a ski with great edge hold that can rail the boilerplate relatively well, but is also not an absolute chore if you're taking it in bumps, releasing the tail, etc. I had a pair of Volkl Deacon Pro 76s...they're pretty dang good, but not the best bump ski, but they're very reasonable. I had a Head Monster 88 for years that I absolutely loved. I think that it's almost a perfect one ski for out east....but it really doesn't have the same edge hold. I'm guessing some type of Stockli laser would be a strong contender, or maybe Blizzard Firebird HRC. Thoughts?
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01-09-2022, 08:12 PM #2Registered User
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Laser AX.
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01-09-2022, 08:12 PM #3
RAX
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01-09-2022, 08:25 PM #4
MX89 or MX99
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01-10-2022, 01:58 AM #5
I’ll sell you a HRC. Brand new. One run on it. Felt like racing again. Gross.
I ski a Corvus ever single day. And I live in Vermont. But to each there own. I bet you would like a Brahma. Or a B97. Or an enforcer. Wasn’t there just a thread about “east coast blah day ski” or something. Pretty much every day on the east coast is blah at this point.
but ya. Let me know if you want an HRC. In a 175. With xcell 16s.
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01-10-2022, 06:04 AM #6Registered User
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Mantra M6 (all versions) have been my go to ski for all conditions in New England.
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01-10-2022, 07:01 AM #7
Ice 60s-70s
100% groomers 70s-80s
Trees 80s-90s
If your east coast daily driver is > 100 you're a total poserGo that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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01-10-2022, 07:45 AM #8Registered User
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Not to sound harsh, but I tend to agree that anything over 100 is overkill 95% of time out east. When I moved back home from CO, I was skiing an old Kastle FX104 with dynafits every day the first season. It wasn't too fun anywhere except touring or at Jay. Could I ski them in all conditions decently well - sure..but I wasn't maximizing the fun. Then I went to head monsters, now I have these Volkl Deacon Pros 76, now I'm thinking about getting a pair of Stocklis under 70mm. Going narrower made a world of difference in my enjoyment on the crappy days. Even good snow out east...Stockli Stormrider 95 for resort and Black Crowes Camox Freebird for touring. I don't really have the need for anything wider in the Adirondacks...though I miss the days of bombing around on my wider skis out west.
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01-10-2022, 08:51 AM #9
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01-10-2022, 11:19 AM #10
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01-10-2022, 03:22 PM #11Registered User
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01-10-2022, 03:57 PM #12Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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01-10-2022, 06:34 PM #13
I picked up some SpeedZones from Cinnepa that work rather nicely.
It makes perfect sense...until you think about it.
I suspect there's logic behind the madness, but I'm too dumb to see it.
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01-10-2022, 08:56 PM #14
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01-10-2022, 09:54 PM #15
Head iTitan
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01-11-2022, 04:25 AM #16
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01-11-2022, 08:12 AM #17Registered User
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Come on bud - no need to go there. To each their own. When I was younger, I thought narrower, short turn radius skis were for dweebs. No doubt you can ski a wider cambered ski in pretty much all conditions. I used to subscribe to that philosophy. But when the terrain is limited and the conditions make you question your life choices, I have realized that I have more fun on a ski that can grip like no other.
I did find that alternative "blah east coast day" ski thread after making this one. I don't think they're entirely redundant. I guess I'm essentially asking...what's the grippiest ski with the right turn radius and profile for narrower northeast trails and perhaps not a total chore to release the tail. Probably somewhat of a paradox. I would think that Blizzard HRC is a good contender, but it's probably too similar to the Volkl Deacon Pro 76.
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01-11-2022, 08:12 AM #18
I wouldn't bet on that if I were you.. What I would bet on is that you're not riding the ideal ski designed for typical ice coast conditions. I get a good laugh watching you fools flopping those snow skis side to side on ice. Doable? Can I do it? Absolutely.. But I prefer not to. Maybe someday you can afford a quiver...
Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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01-11-2022, 09:14 AM #19
ha, great! i actually picked up another pair of the same ski, .....needed around here. glad i could help. also grabbed head instinct ti pros off my neighbor who was giving them away....nice edgehold, damp, 83 underfoot, so a little more versatile. 88 enforcer for anything not bulletproof.....104 frees for the very rare snowdays near me.
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01-11-2022, 09:33 AM #20
Icy groomers and bumps/trees = 2 different skis IMO.
Build a quiver my friend.
Your bump/tree ski (80s-90s) will be able to handle ice just fine if it's tuned, but your ice ski (60s) will make it much more fun when you're night skiing at the wawa and the groomers are your only option.
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01-11-2022, 09:36 AM #21Registered User
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01-11-2022, 09:52 AM #22
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01-11-2022, 10:21 AM #23Registered User
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The Fischer RC One GT 86 could fit the bill. Decently still, will carve, but should be more versatile than the Deacon's. Basically a poor man's Laser AX.
I think a good two ski quiver for the east would be your Deacons plus something 95-100mm.
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01-11-2022, 10:24 AM #24
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