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  1. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by jables View Post
    I don't know how hard it is to get a lift to stop in a specific place, but I am sure it isn't easy..
    Pretty fricking easy. Plus or minus 1 foot is so easy a patroller could do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by jables View Post
    Pretty easy to armchair quarterback how to have done a better job with this, but it seems pretty much impossible to come up with a worse response.
    FKNA.

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    I especially like the dude’s commentary in the Stratton one, “just get up there and…cap it”.
    Like someone wouldn’t have died trying to ‘cap’ something with that much pressure.
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    Gonna need some Hyland time just to settle the nerves after watching that.
    Relatively low post count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    I especially like the dude’s commentary in the Stratton one, “just get up there and…cap it”.
    Like someone wouldn’t have died trying to ‘cap’ something with that much pressure.
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    The first subterranean test was the nuclear device known as Pascal A, which was lowered down a 500 ft (150 m) borehole. However, the detonated yield turned out to be 50,000 times greater than anticipated, creating a jet of fire that shot hundreds of feet into the sky.[8] During the Pascal-B nuclear test,[8] of August 1957,[9][10] a 900-kilogram (2,000 lb) steel plate cap (a piece of armor plate) was welded over the borehole to contain the nuclear blast even though Brownlee predicted it would not work.[8] When Pascal-B was detonated, the blast went straight up the test shaft, launching the cap into the atmosphere at a speed of more than 66 km/s (41 mi/s; 240,000 km/h; 150,000 mph). The plate was never found.[11] Scientists believe compression heating caused the cap to vaporize as it sped through the atmosphere.[8] A high-speed camera, which took one frame per millisecond, was focused on the borehole because studying the velocity of the plate was deemed scientifically interesting.[8] After the detonation, the plate appeared in only one frame, but this was enough to make an estimation of its speed. Dr. Brownlee joked the best estimate of the cover's speed from the photographic evidence was it was "going like a bat!".[11][12] Brownlee estimated that the explosion, combined with the specific design of the shaft, could accelerate the plate to approximately six times Earth's escape velocity.[11] In 2015 Dr. Brownlee said, "I have no idea what happened to the cap, but I always assumed that it was probably vaporized before it went into space."[13] Later calculations made during 2019 (although with unconfirmed veracity), on the question of the survivability of the cap necessary to reach outer space are strongly in favor of its vaporization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraham View Post
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    Cool

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    steel vapors.... what does that smell like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by m2711c View Post
    steel vapors.... what does that smell like?
    Grab some steel will and light it on fire

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahman View Post
    Somebody give those people a hot cocoa voucher.
    This guy's got upper management written all over him!
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    Red Adair woulda knocked that out with some dynamite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snoboy View Post
    Pretty fricking easy. Plus or minus 1 foot is so easy a patroller could do it.
    yeah but was this place visible to anyone at or even near the lifts? although I can't understand why they restarted it after they got it stopped in a good spot. maybe some people were yelling to get the folks that were now frozen to the chairs to the top for their cocoa vouchers
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    Interviewed a woman that fell off the lift this morning on ABC news, she was in the hospital with some injuries. Not sure if the segment is online yet, can't find it yet to replay or have a link to the segment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    This guy's got upper management written all over him!
    At beech maybe. Gunther would yank their tickets.
    "Can't you see..."

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    Did they ever find the gaper who hit the gun hydrant breaking it in the first place?
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahman View Post
    Somebody give those people a hot cocoa voucher.
    Ha, handed out a lot of those when I worked at Big Sky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neufox47 View Post
    Grab some steel will and light it on fire
    Smoke crack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshall Tucker View Post
    At beech maybe. Gunther would yank their tickets.
    Gunther would just leave them up there.
    https://myfox8.com/news/boy-left-str...ed-to-survive/
    swing your fucking sword.

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    Even more reason to be happy to ski at a place that doesn't need snow making. And I thought it was just for the snow quality...

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    this screengrab from 25 seconds in may explain why they turned the lifts back on. This was just as they were getting the first people clear of the spray. The kid on the right is frozen in place to the chair. Then the lift stopped it in what appeared to be a good place before starting again cruelly
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    the same scene after they realized they might start the lift again. Very few of these folks realized they could hang from the chair then drop rather than lemming off the chair
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    Quote Originally Posted by m2711c View Post
    snowmobile would’ve been tossed like a toy….
    Yeah, and who draws the short straw to drive it onto the geyser? Bwhahaha!

    Maybe they should have just thrown a piece of plywood over it? Or one of the pop up sun tents would have worked.

    I'm sure the people wearing goretex were fine...

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    Water pipe bursts at Beech Mtn NC, chaos ensues

    Quote Originally Posted by abraham View Post
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    Hah! I want to believe it was not vaporized, reached six times earth’s escape velocity and actually made it into orbit. 7mi/sec is escape velocity so this thing was possibly going 42mi/sec? Haha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by powdork View Post
    yeah but was this place visible to anyone at or even near the lifts? although I can't understand why they restarted it after they got it stopped in a good spot. maybe some people were yelling to get the folks that were now frozen to the chairs to the top for their cocoa vouchers
    Patroller on scene with a radio. A radio at top or bottom. It's not difficult to time it so that the lift stops where you want.

    It would be awesome if this was debriefed in a public manner as a learning experience. Not likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HHTELE View Post

    It would be awesome if this was debriefed in a public manner as a learning experience. Not likely.
    It does seem odd that no article I’ve seen seems to mention anything along the lines of “the NC tramway board (or whoever) has opened an investigation into the incident”

    So far it seems like “dear people, today we blew people off the lift. Tomorrow will be a better day.”



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    Do they not require valves every so often on those water lines?

    What is the size of those lines and what pipe material? HDPE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by californiagrown View Post
    Do they not require valves every so often on those water lines?

    What is the size of those lines and what pipe material? HDPE?
    These are questions only puregravity can answer.


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