Bringing Back The Best: Lotii And Other Assorted Love Songs

[byates1]

General niche ski maker question: who in NA/USA is building the most number of skis per year? On3p? 4frnt?

[Marshal Olson]

General niche ski maker question: who in NA/USA is building the most number of skis per year? On3p? 4frnt?

well, I’m 6.5 years out of date on that stuff, so I’m not the guy to know!

But it might be worth clarifying if you care about in house production (ie moment, on3p, praxis, dps) or outsourced (j, 4frnt, Icelandic).

[Crystal Skier]

^ O shit.

Those look amazing.

^^^this^^^ dang those are saucy @Phall

dangerously infectious hanging around here


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[byates1]

well, I’m 6.5 years out of date on that stuff, so I’m not the guy to know!

But it might be worth clarifying if you care about in house production (ie moment, on3p, praxis, dps) or outsourced (j, 4frnt, Icelandic).

Built in US/NA. My 4frnts are e CA, just wondering.

[iriponsnow]

[2FUNKY]

Sick. ZF or SE?


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[FloridaSnow]

General niche ski maker question: who in NA/USA is building the most number of skis per year? On3p? 4frnt?

moment

[Marshal Olson]

Saturday morning question from thoughts rolling around my head, as I stand here tuning and shipping skis at 7am

How many people are seriously interested in a ~2000g-ish 50/50 type build to compliment the light touring stuff at ~1750g and the alpine stuff at ~2350?

I have received a handful of questions about it and have a pretty clear picture in my head about the construction would be. But truthfully, it isn't something that feels particularly exciting to me as I see it as a spec-sheet driven construction rather than a performance-driven one. But happy to see what is possible and if I can surprise myself if its something lots of folks are keen on.

If it ends up being a go, I can't imagine skis going up for sale before Fall/Winter 2025, as it would take all season to develop a new construction and flex pattern.

Alright, back at it. Appreciate any insights. Thanks y'all.

[Get.Kronk]

Re: 50/50 layup. I would be! My use case would be soft snow daily driver. The majority of my resort ski days are spent with a few inbounds laps and a few OB, mostly booting and sidestepping. I don’t mind the heavy skis for a quick bootpack, but I definitely feel the heft of my FR110’s on longer ones and especially after a few sidestep laps. I’m imagining 112-115ish long low reverse, and I’ll leave the rest of the design aspects up to the professionals.

[Rob Stokes]

PM’d ya some thoughts so you can read later…but yah, would love a VWK replacement (-14 mount not required…but if length and mount work for my limited skill set, wherever the design goes, 1 for Fall/Winter ‘25 delivery please.

Same. I'd also change the sizing up to include something around the 187cm mark.

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[Marshal Olson]

Ok cool!

so early results are two shapes…

(1) more directional, around 110mm, maybe 187-188ish
(2) more surfy, around 115mm

ideas…

[K1mJ0ngTr1ll]

Am 100 +10. R/FR sizing. Same weights. Money.

[Marshal Olson]

Same. I'd also change the sizing up to include something around the 187cm mark.

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Great size for the intended use. Agree with you 100%

[carlh]

If the big boy (190+) am100 run happens at full fat I’m interested.

[iriponsnow]

Sick. ZF or SE?




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SE….. so supple ‘n sexy….

[McShortyShorts]

Did the RC85 get a slight graphics update?

[Marshal Olson]

Good eye. I slid the background image over about 2” as there was a small section on the left ski of the test run that washed out and didn’t print quite as well as I had hoped.

super happy with the result myself

but realizing… I may not have revised the web image quite yet. Thanks for highlighting.

[Westcoaster]

What's the status on this years bc132 run?

Is there really any downside to mounting with a haute route style 200g binding? Was trading between the HR with the heritage toe pattern and maybe a ski trab with the r01 plate. Anyone experience negative outcomes with wide ski + narrow toe mount?

[Marshal Olson]

What's the status on this years bc132 run?

Is there really any downside to mounting with a haute route style 200g binding? Was reading between the HR with the heritage tow pattern and maybe a ski trab with the r01 plate. Anyone experience negative outcomes with wide ski + narrow toe mount?

Ahoy! The BC132 aka Ultra Taper 132 was launched in August for preorder, promptly sold out, and should ship around new years. More info to come on exact timing for folks with preorders in about a month!

Regarding bindings, I run race style bindings with adjustment plates (specifically radical toes and either ATK Trofeo/R01 plates or Plum 170's) to spread the heel holes out a little on all my fat pow carbon pow skis with awesome results.

[2FUNKY]

SE….. so supple ‘n sexy….

Nice dude! I cannot wait to hear your feedback.


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[McShortyShorts]

Good eye. I slid the background image over about 2” as there was a small section on the left ski of the test run that washed out and didn’t print quite as well as I had hoped.

super happy with the result myself

but realizing… I may not have revised the web image quite yet. Thanks for highlighting.

Nice. Production graphics looked even better but couldn't quite put a finger on it

[sf]

Ok cool!

so early results are two shapes…

(1) more directional, around 110mm, maybe 187-188ish
(2) more surfy, around 115mm

ideas…

I'm not really in the market for a 50/50 ski, but to me the bigger the shape the more a 50/50 construction makes sense. The FR 132 is not really a ski I need or want, but if I was considering it a weight around 2300g would make more sense than a 2750g FR or a 2000g BC. The FR really is to heavy to skin on, and the BC is perhaps a little light if planning to use it inbound in sligthly heavier snow?

Regarding the shapes above; I'd love (1)......in a FR build :-). Seriously though; what would a 50/50 in that shape weigh in at? 2050? Could be interesting.

[Lord Thomas]

Oh shit, it looks like I forgot to respond to your PM on AM build from a couple of months ago. Beyond the VWK substitute (e.g. R110 AM or something like that in a 190cm length and 35-ish meter radius) already discussed the build that comes to my vacuous little mind is a 200cm AM132. Thinking in that 2,200 to 2,250-ish gram mark would be just right for a broke down old punter like me. Starting to get a little emotional just thinking about it

[Marshal Olson]

Lots of digesting. Lots!

[Marshal Olson]

One quick reaction though... my fear with giving big pow skis the ozempic treatment is that they will lose muscle, not fat.