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Thread: Bringing Back The Best: Lotii And Other Assorted Love Songs

  1. #2551
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    after a postal strike and a long high pressure finally got my bc110s mounted and out on some snow!

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    as my first reverse ski it was a weird sensation and one thatll take some getting used to but had a blast in hero snow the other night. stoked to get out en em this weekend again. thanks MO!

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  2. #2552
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    eff this place's lack of pics. i can assure you skis look sick.


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  3. #2553
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    Bringing Back The Best: Lotii And Other Assorted Love Songs

    just here to say I spend all my worthless time fantasizing about my next opportunity to get on my ZF116. blower or upside down, it is the best all around new snow or leftovers resort shape I have been on.

    I am usually skiing wind effect and <12” so have been hesitant to buy a ski over 108-110. somehow the cambered 116 holds an edge better than my 108 I thought did that well. I ski a lot of trees but also like to let em run and this shape does it all for me. As a landing platform I’m super impressed, on the runout I’m super impressed, in the steeps I’m super impressed, in the air I’m super impressed, sliding sideways I’m super impressed.

    RC116 is gonna be a resort killer.

  4. #2554
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    Hear ya bud! Still replaying last Thursday mashing around Silver on the ZF’s. Rage, slash, slither, pop, play, slarve, carve, stomp, ski with gf. So good. The RC with the more approachable flex and new available shorter size will be a great resort pow ski for smaller/lighter dudes.
    I should have been on them Sunday but didn’t expect the eighth plus inches they got as the snow stake didn’t reflect it either. R-Dimes to the rescue!


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  5. #2555
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    I need a new 115-120mm ski like a bullet to the head, my still; compare the ZF (or RC) to a Billygoat for me

  6. #2556
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    Great to hear @Shroom; I was so disenchanted with the ZFs from the run I got on them. Seems like when they get a proper detune they sing!! Fkna.


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  7. #2557
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    116ZF vs BG

    Definitely room for both in the quiver, IMHO.

    BG optimized for pow, looser and surfier, float comes from further forward on the ski.

    ZF more a big mtn charger. Stiffer, longer effective edge, much better on piste, needs more room. More suitable as a resort all-arounder.

  8. #2558
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    Super important question for the peanut gallery: Forza 1.0 or raw Pivots for the RC116s?I've got both on hand, and eagerly awaiting shipment from the early preorder.

  9. #2559
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    Both. Pull an Arild.

  10. #2560
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    Bringing Back The Best: Lotii And Other Assorted Love Songs

    “Carving on the groomers was a particularly nice experience for a ski this fat. I felt that the Swallowtail R120 engaged and released more easily than the FR version; in this regard, it felt quite similar to my favorite Folsom Raptures. I think part of that is related to the tune. HL offers the option for a $69 upcharge to get a shape-specific tune; the Swallowtail R120 I’m on had this done to them. It’s rare that I ski a pair of fat skis on groomers and they immediately feel this good; without even the slightest detune, these skis felt incredibly easy and intuitive in firm snow.”

    “I again want to emphasize how nice the (optional shape-specific) tune feels on these skis. It’s rare that I don’t even feel the need to do a tip detune on a new pow ski. Heritage Lab has done a really nice job with the Swallowtail 120’s shape-specific tune, and I think the extra money for the hand tune is very worthwhile.”

    In other words. Get the tune.


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  11. #2561
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    Different Skis. Different fun. Papa John’s.


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  12. #2562
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    I don't think there's a specific thread for the 120 swallowtails? I have the Rs.

    Today was the day that I finally skied them in the right conditions *and* they clicked with me I think. Skiing them on nothing but groomers and chop I've been wondering if I would've been happier mounting them 1-1.5cm back from MO's rec but haven't changed them.

    Today at Crystal was weird. Yesterday snowed like 16" but it was also nuking 100+ mph wind so everything was closed. The few days before that were an atmospheric river that poured rain. Then today went warm and bluebird in the morning with greybird and ridge winds by close. So all the snow types were on offer (except blower pow). They did their usual thing in the chop in the morning which was fun with the occasional really good turn in a patch of mostly intact snow.

    Once they opened Southback in the afternoon I finally got what everyone's talking about. The snow was a mix of bed surfaces from the *everywhere* avalanches with 2-3' crowns and then the edges that, on N aspects were heavy cascade pow and on all the other aspects were heavy cascade pow with varying amounts of suncrust and rain effect on top. The R120s crushed it all. Finding myself on a giant slope of untouched suncrusted pow I grimaced with the first turn expecting misery but they just… kept going. Anyway, today ruled and these skis made it happen I think.

    On groomers they have a really fine margin between railing a turn on edge, slarving, and full on skidding which takes a bit of a learning curve but is pretty fun and adaptable once figured out.

  13. #2563
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    There is a swallowtail
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    Heritage Lab Swallowtails (R, FR, & BC)
    https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...d.php?t=356299


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    Aggressive in my own mind

  14. #2564
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    Killer right up by MO In the inbox.

    Really stoked to see the partnership with Todd as I’ve been having him to my Skis for years. I dare say he could be the MO of ski tuning.

  15. #2565
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    Fresh mount and fresh snow for SW CO the next couple days. Stoked to get on em.

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    Bringing Back The Best: Lotii And Other Assorted Love Songs

    Still can’t post pics apparently…

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  17. #2567
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    Did I miss this announcement? Showed up in the ultra tapered 122 "have you considered" carousel but not in the main catalog...

    https://heritagelabskis.com/products...pr_seq=uniform

  18. #2568
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    Pretty sure the only change was the sick purple top sheet.
    (Small batch).

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    Only did 5 pairs. Got one and they rip. Had the FR132’s last year and the UT132 build gives nothing up in low dense and cream cheese, it’s pretty amazing. Loved the FR’s but I put casts on my UT’s and they run chairs for the first couple hours just fine. I have other HL’s coming next season for the chop - RC116’s

    The UT132 is by far the best R/R I have owned, plus MO is so rad, I suggested a purple themed head in the clouds look and he nailed it. Just one example of how special the lab is.
    Harvest the ride.

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