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Thread: Fuck Vail! Here's how.
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12-29-2021, 07:18 PM #76
I can only think of a few professions where the workers are more disillusioned than ski patrol from an economic perspective.
Ah, to wake up to sparkling crystals of pure blower. Running lines and bombing with the crew. Last one off the mountain. Living the fucking dream.
Most low wage slaves actually know they are getting fucked and have no choice. But patrol just bends right over and takes the kool aid enema.
Maybe liftie? Panhandler?
And if you say, STFU, it's not about the money, well this thread is about the money.Is it radix panax notoginseng? - splat
This is like hanging yourself but the rope breaks. - DTM
Dude Listen to mtm. He's a marriage counselor at burning man. - subtle plague
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12-29-2021, 07:18 PM #77
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12-29-2021, 07:19 PM #78powdork.com - new and improved, with 20% more dork.
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12-29-2021, 07:23 PM #80
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12-29-2021, 07:23 PM #81
Thanks, man.
I don't have the answers for the future.
Just know that a union and ski patrolling don't mix.
Cause it ain't about the money.
It's about the lifestyle.
Being at the right ski area is paramount.
Not trying to be the guy who dies with the most money.
Am trying to be the guy who dies having experienced the most joy.
Shit, coulda died years ago and met that goal.
A ski patrol lifestyle helps meet that goal.
Period.
(3 beers in).Time spent skiing cannot be deducted from one's life.
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12-29-2021, 07:25 PM #82Is it radix panax notoginseng? - splat
This is like hanging yourself but the rope breaks. - DTM
Dude Listen to mtm. He's a marriage counselor at burning man. - subtle plague
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12-29-2021, 07:32 PM #83Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
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12-29-2021, 07:32 PM #84powdork.com - new and improved, with 20% more dork.
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12-29-2021, 07:33 PM #85
Being snide won't further anything.
We've got some serious problems in this country and all the variations of insults aren't going to help.
So, remember, we're pulling for you.
We're all in this together.Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
>>>200 cm Black Bamboo Sidewalled DPS Lotus 120 : Best Skis Ever <<<
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12-29-2021, 07:34 PM #86powdork.com - new and improved, with 20% more dork.
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12-29-2021, 07:35 PM #87
Looks like the non-union patrol at the Mothership are at least going to get a raise:
https://www.vaildaily.com/news/day-o...vail-mountain/
From a recent survey of holiday lodging bookings:
Tom Foley, senior vice president of business process and analytics for Inntopia, said that across the 290 properties surveyed by DestiMetrics, the average daily rate for all of December was roughly $640 for all surveyed properties.Is it radix panax notoginseng? - splat
This is like hanging yourself but the rope breaks. - DTM
Dude Listen to mtm. He's a marriage counselor at burning man. - subtle plague
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12-29-2021, 07:39 PM #88
We are NOT all in this together. There are clearly people here rooting against the patrollers because it's not the way they did it back in the day. was there an Epic Pass back in the day? An Ikon pass? Things change. As mentioned in the first post, at the end of January 2021, Vail resorts was sitting on 4 billion in cash. FUCK THEM for fucking them.
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12-29-2021, 07:41 PM #89
Oh, yes we are. That doesn't mean everyone knows it.
There are clearly people here rooting against the patrollers because it's not the way they did it back in the day. was there an Epic Pass back in the day? An Ikon pass? Things change. As mentioned in the first post, at the end of January 2021, Vail resorts was sitting on 4 billion in cash. FUCK THEM for fucking them.
I don't think one can acknowledge the problem with the executive fuckovers everyone is getting and ignore the corruption in unions. We have to understand both.Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
>>>200 cm Black Bamboo Sidewalled DPS Lotus 120 : Best Skis Ever <<<
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12-29-2021, 07:42 PM #90Registered User
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The best part of it all is that Fkn' Vail thought they could bring in some B team scabs from Park City or wherever and throw them into the fire. That first route on Cowboy ridge with 3 feet of new, 5 inches of water must have humbled em' real good. Hundreds of years of experience gone. Vail can replace their middle management or their fry cooks at will, but exposed hanging snowfield avy control is another story.
They can't open cuz they can't do the control work.
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12-29-2021, 07:49 PM #91
That's fucking insane (just a smidge over the state minimum wage). It's 45/50 miles to the closest grocery store from Stevens Pass; i.e. the closest realistic place to live. Using IRS reimbursement rates, patrol is blowing $58 a day just getting to their job every day (or 4 hours of their daily wage). What other job on earth has to spend nearly 50% of what they make in take home pay just getting to work? And this is a place where pimply faced 21 year old tech workers are starting out at 200k a year.
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12-29-2021, 07:53 PM #92
Do you think TFW is approaching this from a union perspective? No. It's straight up nostalgia. He thinks people should be motivated by the same thing he was motivated by. He wrote it down and pressed reply. I guarantee you they are motivated by those things, but it's not enough to survive in today's economic climate.
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12-29-2021, 07:54 PM #93
You're wrong again. It's 35 miles to Leavenworth.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Stev...47.5962326!3e0
I'm sure your heart is in the right place though.Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
>>>200 cm Black Bamboo Sidewalled DPS Lotus 120 : Best Skis Ever <<<
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12-29-2021, 07:58 PM #94
Obviously not.
I think they are motivated by similar things, but the buckscape, like you say, has changed in a big way.
So we agree on that.
The problem is how many unions are wads of vampiric pyrosis. They don't have to be, but lots are..
Anyway, I read it as TFW understands the problem, but dismisses the established unions as a solution. Collective bargaining needn't be saddled with Rudy:
Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
>>>200 cm Black Bamboo Sidewalled DPS Lotus 120 : Best Skis Ever <<<
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12-29-2021, 07:58 PM #95
I don't know what it's like now, but a year ago I was looking to move from Tahoe because it has become what I would call an unrealistic place to live (my place sold, there were NO other places appearing. I looked at Leavenworth and there was also zero availability.
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12-29-2021, 07:59 PM #96
I just hope ski patrollers don't have to pay for their gear at least. That's a fairly big expense for someone making 15 bucks an hour and has to drive 30 to 45 minutes each way for work where they risk their lives doing that job.
A lot of patrollers I've known over the years have family money and weren't concerned with things the way people like myself are. It does seem like a fun job for that sort of person.dirtbag, not a dentist
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12-29-2021, 08:00 PM #97
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12-29-2021, 08:00 PM #98
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12-29-2021, 08:02 PM #99Registered User
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12-29-2021, 08:03 PM #100
The thing is, coming from Tahoe I don't give TFW the god status you folks do. He's someone with an absolute shitton of avalanche knowledge that means fuckall in this situation. The folks fighting Vail are saying this is what we need right now and as someone that hates Vail and everything they stand for I am with them.
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