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12-27-2021, 07:35 AM #1Registered User
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should I become a ski bum…seeking wisdom
hello mags,
im a 22 year old currently working a corporate job out in the Midwest. I joined after graduation. everyone else here has been working here since they left college and no one ever leaves because it is a pretty good gig.
unfortunately, I’ve been struggling in my position and I’ve gotten the hint from my supervisor to start my job search.
ever since I made my first trip out west, ski bumming has been on my radar. it’s been a dream of mine for a while. now, I have the chance to do it, but the “costs” are kind of scaring me away.
obv, the cost of housing, putting off a “career” for a year, finding a job after, health insurance, my immigrant parents. lol all those things worry me, so I’m asking for some words of wisdom or advice from Mags who have taken the plunge.
im realizing that if I don’t do it now, I won’t ever. but the costs seem to be so high. what do you guys think? should I take the plunge and move out to somewhere with employee housing?
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12-27-2021, 07:42 AM #2
What's your degree in? Plenty of places you can get a real job and still have good access to skiing, if that's your thing. Cost of living in the west is certainly higher across the board in the midwest, but still doable, especially when you're young and able to operate on a tight budget.
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12-27-2021, 07:50 AM #3
Costs? They're not high, there's a reason we call them bums. Housing is the big issue, if you can get that squared, go for it.
And yes, eventually, it doesn't have to be career or skiing, it can be both, but for now, be a bum."fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
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"everybody's got their hooks into you, fuck em....forge on motherfuckers, drag all those bitches across the goal line with you." - (not so) ill-advised strategy
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12-27-2021, 07:56 AM #4
Do it. “Real life” will still be there in a year or two. Housing is the hardest part in most towns. If you can figure that out your golden. Also, as mentioned above, depending on your degree, you might actually be able to work in your field in a ski town.
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12-27-2021, 08:18 AM #5
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12-27-2021, 08:21 AM #6
You’ve come to the right place with your query. I think I speak for all of us when I say don’t do it - go back to school and get a degree in computers or something useful, or maybe electrician trade school. Thank us later.
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12-27-2021, 08:35 AM #7Registered User
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This.
You're 22 years old, during one of the biggest transitional periods in the history of labor in the United States. Taking a couple of years to go bum during the winter at a ski area will not destroy your career, if anything it will give you better perspective. Look for a job that provides housing on the hill and send it.
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12-27-2021, 08:36 AM #8
I say if it’s been in the back of your mind do it while you can. As you get older it will become less and less of a real possibility.it took me 2y after my first Utah trip to move here from Boston but once I made it I couldn’t get enough and here we are 21years later. All ya gotta do is dream it and live it up. Rock on bro!
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12-27-2021, 08:40 AM #9
unless that trust fund is kicking out checks, ski bumming is part time work shit, sleeping on couches, grabbing crackers off the table, scratching for a meal, and dear god drinking PBRs
learn a trade such as electrician, plumber or welder. those skills are needed in every ski town and can keep you from being a ski bum but a skier that is part of the community.
if not, be a cube jockey like me and move close as you can but deal with a bigger city and all the downsides/upsides. make the best life you can while trying to slip away for a few hrs on the hill to re-charge.
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12-27-2021, 08:41 AM #10
Do it. Get a van and sleep in it near one hill as a base or take your chances with employee housing....housing may be the only reason to work for a ski corp. Independently owned business that offer ski passes are probably a better bet. Restaurants are the go to for classic ski bumming. Start work in the afternoon/evening and be able to ski every morning. Daytime mountain ops/lifty is really the worst choice for actually doing any skiing.
Perhaps you are young enough and have the right work experience for some sort of remote gig. Seems like so many 20somethings now have these jobs where you can work from a computer/phone for like 4 hours a day. Get one of those, a van, and an Ikon pass.
As others have said you will never regret it. The corporate drone life will always be there.
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12-27-2021, 08:44 AM #11
Counterpoint... work your ass off now and make as much money as you can so when you're in your 30s you can buy a house in a mountain town and enjoy life.
What's your degree in? What's your career path?
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12-27-2021, 08:50 AM #12
Don't be a ski bum. Bum's fucking suck. Be a pro skier. Don't have a dog, as great as they are. Get a reliable van and insulate the fuck out of it. Work, live in your van. Get a gym membership or a hot spring membership. Don't work in the winter. Get an iKon pass, xc skis, bc skis. Ski over 100 days. Save money while doing it.
Apply for healthcare using your parents or some blue state address when you are not working. Hence no income. Hence free emergency healthcare if you need it.
Don't drink and smoke.run, hike ski everyday.
Bang chicks in your van. If they want to hang make them get thier own van and pay for all their own shit like you do. Keep your pimp hand strong.
Invest 10/20 % of your income in global equity etfs and Bitcoin related digital assets. Also physical gold and silver. And guns.
Laugh at the rest of society trapped in their decisions.
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12-27-2021, 08:53 AM #13one of those sickos
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Do it now. As someone who didn't get even halfway serious about adulting until 32 and who now owns a home and has a great business that I enjoy (and I'm free to ski every day if the snow is good), I'm all for people spending their 20s traveling, skiing/climbing/cycling/etc.
Skiing as we know it is dying. Climate change is going to take it away from us, so you need to get it while you still can.
The biggest piece of advice I can offer is to keep your overhead low. The "bum" part of the phrase is essential. No fancy car, no fancy nights out on the town, etc. If you go the van route (I wouldn't at first), don't, for the love of Ullr, get $30+k Sprinter or some shit. The difference between even a cheap Instagram worthy van and a $5k cargo van with some plywood will pay for several years of dirtbagging.
Focus.ride bikes, climb, ski, travel, cook, work to fund former, repeat.
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12-27-2021, 08:57 AM #14
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12-27-2021, 09:01 AM #15Registered User
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This
This is something I’ve thought about a lot in my later 20s. If you have a good paying job out of school you can be pumping some serious coin into interest earning investments and the reality of buying something in your 30s becomes way less daunting.
It is also very relevant that you disclose your degree, because if it’s in underwater basket weaving my suggestion would change - you should go bum in a mountain town.
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12-27-2021, 09:03 AM #16
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12-27-2021, 09:04 AM #17
Also, get a mountain bike. A pretty good one. It's just as good as skiing and so many ski bums spend all summer with their thumb up their ass or sitting at the bar waiting for November.
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12-27-2021, 09:07 AM #18Restaurants are the go to for classic ski bumming. Start work in the afternoon/evening and be able to ski every morning.Daytime mountain ops/lifty is really the worst choice for actually doing any skiing.I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.
"Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"
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12-27-2021, 09:13 AM #19
Don’t do anything halfway… follow the toe and head north to Alaska. Hopefully you’ve already been training.
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12-27-2021, 09:29 AM #20Registered User
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I studied finance and currently work in government finance. I’ve been online wfh since June…staring at my screen all day and not talking to another human until my roommates get home from work. My job hasn’t kept me very busy either so lots of days I stare out the window or spend hours reading WSJ, NYT, FT or some other newspaper. it feels like I haven’t really used my mind much since I graduated, like it’s a muscle that has withered away. for some people, like my older coworkers, this and the government pension is the dream, but it feels like I am mentally withering away as time flies by. i want do use my mind and energy for something and it doesnt seem like i am doing that
biggest thing holding me back and that I am struggling with is that I was working class or poor all my life. I worked and paid my way through school and got scholarships to pay for everything. my current job is on the lower-median end of finance pay, but it’s more money than I have ever had. it feels like I’ve entered a new social class and earned what the years of school I went through obliges me. ski bumming would enrich my life in many more ways than my current job, but it would mean that I would step down a notch and be poor again (I do have $10k saved up that I would not like to touch). that’s the biggest issue. it sounds very materialistic of me, but I grew up as an immigrant not having much, so if I take this leap, I want to make sure i will stick the landing and not drown.
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12-27-2021, 09:34 AM #21
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12-27-2021, 09:34 AM #22
^you are young af. You can't fail. Don't spend more than you earn and you are good.
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12-27-2021, 09:35 AM #23Registered User
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There are a few folks here who seem to think "bumming" has to be a hand to mouth type of existence freezing your ass off in a van. While some still are able to make that kind of living happen, it ain't that much fun when local PD forces you to move you van for the 5th time this season and you're trying to warm up your liners in a bathroom on a hand dryer. It's easier to get a job that provides a season pass, housing, or both at a resort. Skip lift ops, instructor or any other type of job where you're not skiing for fun. Ski every single day, meet people, party, ski more and maybe even get laid occasionally.
And as byates1 said above me, don't spend more than you earn. If you have a credit card don't fucking use it except for emergencies (needing a pair of pow skis is not an emergency).
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12-27-2021, 09:35 AM #24"When the child was a child it waited patiently for the first snow and it still does"- Van "The Man" Morrison
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12-27-2021, 09:45 AM #25
It's -8 I'm in the Bridger lot now. Went to sleep in the van -9, woke up -9. About 30 in the van. No heat while sleeping. Propane on from under the covers. 60 within 5 min.
People need to harden the fuck up. Bunch of soft ass white people w way too much comfort.
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