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Thread: 22/23 gear rumors
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01-19-2022, 10:47 PM #451Registered User
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Some stuff got posted over on MPORA (the dude who was in charge of the photos needs a talking to)
Some touring highlights that I haven't already seen in other posts
-Dyanfit: TLT 10 and some sort of new adjustable release u-spring binding
-BD: New Helio topsheets, Lightweight alum crampons, lightweight axe
-Dalbello: Quantum Evo boot. Looks like that F1LT zone (photo skills coming in at a solid D-)
TLDR; Ski faster. Quit breathing. Don't crash.
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01-20-2022, 01:31 AM #452
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01-20-2022, 05:50 AM #453Registered User
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01-20-2022, 07:30 AM #454
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01-20-2022, 10:07 AM #455
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01-20-2022, 10:23 AM #456
Get your google translate ready
https://flipboard.com/@primesports/skiing-437lb0j8z
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01-20-2022, 10:34 AM #457
https://youtu.be/yynwq3jTtAI
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01-20-2022, 10:41 AM #458
22/23 gear rumors
New Tecnica boot
https://blisterreview.com/industry-n...MamLpEUcGWZFQM
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01-20-2022, 10:53 AM #459Registered User
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Will definitely be looking at the Peak when available….. but that MSRP…..tecnica is apparently very proud of their efforts on this one
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01-20-2022, 10:54 AM #460Registered User
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$1140!!!!
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01-20-2022, 10:59 AM #461
But this is a DIN 14/16 model (yes there is a 11 DIN model, too). Salomon/Atomic already has lightweight bindings for lighter weight skiers, but their current line is spread out over STH2, Warden, and Z-style bindings. Seems like a change to simplify the supply chain and drive down manufacturing costs.
From the Atomic marketing blurb in the catalog they push "low center of gravity" and "lightweight reliability" See for yourself:
We did see this before from Look. Who here prefers the non-pivot heel and thinks bringing the pivot line back was a dumb idea? Maybe the Strive is the anti-pivot since it seems like a step in the "other direction".In constant pursuit of the perfect slarve...
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01-20-2022, 11:02 AM #462
MSRP not MAP.
Map is $950 for the peak carbon. Pretty reasonable price IMO.
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01-20-2022, 11:50 AM #463Registered User
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01-20-2022, 12:07 PM #464
Assuming the price doesn’t go up next year?
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01-20-2022, 12:15 PM #465Registered User
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It sucks being excited about boots… I love the look of those technica’s but odds they’ll fit me ‘best’ of the lightweight boots seems really low. Skorpius fits me great so I’ll probably go that direction.
With that in mind, does anyone have eyes on next years Skorpius? Ive read it might be a little stiffer a few times in this thread.
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01-20-2022, 12:16 PM #466
Cost reduction is likely at the heart of it, but at the same time I don't really care as long as it skis well, which it did. They still have the STH 16 and this replaces the Warden. I don't really see the issue? Different bindings for different people. If you want a pivot or STH, you can still have it. I don't think its an either/or proposition here.
Strive 16 has the STH heel too FYI.
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01-20-2022, 12:23 PM #467Registered User
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what happened to the speed nose ?
Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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01-20-2022, 12:31 PM #468
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01-20-2022, 12:35 PM #469
I guess I'm just old school and not the demographic they are after with this binding. I remember when "elastic travel" and "retention vs release" used to be what were important to skiers who skied at a high level. So, you get a 1k gram DIN 14 alpine binding...cool. Nothing about how it compares to the STH that it obviously is replacing. But, it was "approved by the Atomic Freeski team" and delivers "a super stable platform that excels in every situation and snow condition". I feel like Salomon just ceded the entire high-end binding market to Look.
And I'm not arguing WITH you. I have a stash of STH2 13's/16's and won't really be impacted. I just don't understand why the STH toe suddenly became obsolete from a product line perspective.In constant pursuit of the perfect slarve...
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01-20-2022, 12:41 PM #470More Ptex please
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Per Blister
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- 177 [R1(28.2), R2(17.7), R3(25.8)]
- 184 [R1(30.2), R2(18.9), R3(27.4)] ~ -20g on the weight
- 191 [R1(33.2), R2(20.8), R3(30)]
So 1m short off my estimate on the tips. That just means I'll appreciate the longer radius more. The lesser weight not so much. Just means I need to slap a pivot on them to make up.
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01-20-2022, 12:41 PM #471Registered User
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not to mention binding incompatability on the hoji pro tour boot which was a bad idea for a freeride boot and probably cost them sales
but all these boots in the pics would be in the speed nose category
unless speed nose is deadLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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01-20-2022, 12:57 PM #472Registered User
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01-20-2022, 01:14 PM #473
I think it comes down to where the industry as a whole is going right now. The STH toe definitely isnt obsolete its just not what the majority of people probably want to ski. Most things are getting lighter in skis and boots so the next thing on the list were bindings. I like heavy stuff personally but as someone who is 225lbs its a smaller % of my overall body weight.
My wife on the other hand has trouble if her gear is too heavy, especially on powder skis and that can really ruin the fun on a big day. Reduced weight on bindings that still feel solid is a big win for her and others like her. I skied them on hard-ish goomers and chalk bumps with some small airs, nothing really big. I think you would have to be a really discerning skier to know what you are missing between a Strive and a Pivot/STH. It feels like a solid Attack, which is a perfect thing for 99% of skiers on the planet (including me, most of the time).
One thing I get caught up in a lot is understanding that I (and most others here) are in the minority of the needs of the ski industry and that generally we aren't the money makers for them. A Pivot 15 or STH2 16 is overkill for most everyone and if you took a poll on a busy Saturday in a ski shop most customers wouldn't even know what elastic travel in a binding is. But everyone understands that lighter means less tired at the end of the day. If you are selling bindings you sell safety, reliability, feel, and weight in that order. Only real gear nerds care about elastic travel of bindings.
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01-20-2022, 01:25 PM #474Registered User
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Dynafit had introduced a free ride boot that doesnt fit any of the users existing freeride bindings so Incompatablity never stopped Dynafit before,
Shark nose is still around but Dynafit appear to not be putting shark nose on boots where it makes no senseLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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01-20-2022, 01:52 PM #475Registered User
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When did being tired at the end of a day of skiing become a bad thing? Just seems companies are trying to make skiing less of a physical thing than it actually is. I'm not saying everything should be heavy, but not everything needs to be lightweight, either. For women, there have always been lighter weight options. When did all skiers (except us TGR folks) become total wusses?
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