22/23 gear rumors

[Kreemcheese]

Anyone with some more info/ pics of the new Salomon boot?

[Benneke10]

[jacob_dbu]

I love the evolution of everyday touring boots we've seen over the past few years. Can't wait to see Tecnica's

[kid-kapow]

lots of interesting finds in that insta story thread
new Line titanal ski


these Icelantics look pretty damn decent

Revolt 121s still do not do it for me - too bad that they are not matte, that would've helped. Not that it matters - they will probably sell a shit ton of em.

[the_eleven]

I think this link was already shared in this thread, but if not - Atomic 22/23 catalogue

Wonder what has changed on the Ultra XTD 130. They list it as "new."

[Lindahl]

I wonder if that Salomon boot would be lighter and ski better if it had a normal lightweight upper buckle and a TLT6 style powerstrap for securing the very top of the boot and liner. the highest buckle being that low turns the top part of the boot to mush and wasted weight/platic in my experience. Good for marketing maybe?

[Benneke10]

I don't have a lot of faith in Salomon to make a decent touring boot

[nyskirat]

Could be a pretty easy mod.

[wilcox510]

I wonder if that Salomon boot would be lighter and ski better if it had a normal upper buckle and a TLT6 style powerstrap for securing the very top of the boot and liner. the highest buckle being that low turns the top part of the boot to mush and wasted weight/platic in my experience. Good for marketing maybe?

Im guessing this might be the less stiff version, without a power strap, compared to the version of this boot seen on page 1 of this thread with a power strap. But yes, I agree with you. Hopefully that buckle has more range of motion than the F1 buckle so it actually gets loose enough without having to adjust the Velcro to skin most efficiently (or use those whatever they're called TGR aftermarket adapters).

I'm not much of an Instagram guy, but I don't see any of these pics on Outofpodcast, where are they?

[I've seen black diamonds!]

I don't have a lot of faith in Salomon to make a decent touring boot

I think most manufacturers starting making good touring boots around their 3rd or 4th try. Isn't this Salomon's 3rd try?

Looks like a Scarpa F1 without the upper power strap. Take away the upper power strap and the F1 skis like crap. Replace with power strap with a wide Voile strap and it skis significantly better.

[I've seen black diamonds!]

Im guessing this might be the less stuff version, without a power strap, compared to the version of this boot seen on page 1 of this thread with a power strap.

I think that's an Amersports tradition. Wasn't there a version of the 1st Backland boot that was lighter just because it had less stuff on it?

[wilcox510]

I think that's an Amersports tradition. Wasn't there a version of the 1st Backland boot that was lighter just because it had less stuff on it?

Oops, I meant "less stiff", but less stuff would also be accurate..

[I've seen black diamonds!]

Oops, I meant "less stiff", but less stuff would also be accurate..

Backland Carbon:


Backland Carbon Light (100g lighter with flimsy liner, no power strap):

[Lindahl]

I think that's an Amersports tradition. Wasn't there a version of the 1st Backland boot that was lighter just because it had less stuff on it?

Yeah, it had a shitty split tongue too, instead of the full stiff tongue.

I put a TLT6 powerstrap and protour LVs on the regular Carbon Backland and still haven't found anything that skis anywhere near as well that can tour as good as it does. My unicorn lightweight boot so far, but lower volume than is comfortable (need to heatmold the shell with stock liner, then double cook liners, first time in another boot... or just use liners with 120 days on em).

Could even hit decent size hucks with it too:


After a couple years, I did break the shell though where the carbon plastic was riveted and had to get a warranty.

[kid-kapow]

Wonder what has changed on the Ultra XTD 130. They list it as "new."

hm, 19gr heavier, but with seemingly a slightly tweaked liner (touring flex zone vs achilles flex zone - could be marketing jargon only) and a new accent color? I dunno, surprisingly not an updated 13/15/17 forward lean mechanism - so probably the same shell, at least cuff. Still, good catch.

I'm not much of an Instagram guy, but I don't see any of these pics on Outofpodcast, where are they?

in their stories - aka their logo at the top left with a orange ring around it. Press it and see their current stories.

[wilcox510]

in their stories - aka their logo at the top left with a orange ring around it. Press it and see their current stories.

Ahhhh. Got it. Thanks

[Tupp-]

hm, guess I was mistaken in that they wouldn't update the 102. Seems like 2022 will be the year of the midfat - BC110, now Ranger 108 (if FR) and perhaps also Black Ops 110 (gamer made narrower, if they have managed to move it past the prototype stage at this point).

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Source? Interesting construction- maybe more metal.

[dmcd]

lots of interesting finds in that insta story thread
new Line titanal ski

Hate those new Line skis topsheets, very un-Line.

And god I'd love to actually get some info on what is new with K2's lineup. This is like the third time I've heard "construction change" with no additional info.

[DarthMarkus]

hm, guess I was mistaken in that they wouldn't update the 102. Seems like 2022 will be the year of the midfat - BC110, now Ranger 108 (if FR) and perhaps also Black Ops 110 (gamer made narrower, if they have managed to move it past the prototype stage at this point).

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Interesting and impressive lineup from Fischer. As long as they continue what they've been doing, Ranger 108 should actually be at least 110 on the bigger sizes. May have to give it a run for its money and see how it compares against the m-free 108; I kinda have a sneaking suspicion that it will rival it

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[kid-kapow]

interesting that the Atris is getting an update. Graphics are better for sure, but too bad they are still glossy - matte would have looked a lot better.

I am not sure what is going on here, but I like it. Crazy how far back the aero tip goes - hinge point?


Nordica doing Enforcer stuff

I dunno - they are not too bad from this angle.

It must be kinda hard to be Line post-Pollard.

Blizzards looking kinda nice. Going to space or what?

[cocoapuff]

I see Black Ops 118 and 98 but not the tweener width...

[burrito]

It must be kinda hard to be Line post-Pollard.

As someone whose formative skiing years coincided with the rise of twin tips - with Line being a major part of that movement - it’s heartbreaking to see what K2 has done to that brand.

[margotron]

Looks like the return of the Soul 7.

Count me in for the BC110. Curious about the new Atris. Demo'd the current ski and liked it.

[Flippo]

I see Black Ops 118 and 98 but not the tweener width...

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[Bandit Man]

Do we have any info on Volkl updates to the M102 or K108? There was some speculation about carbon "spiderman" tip and tit/anal frame updates but never saw confirmation one way or another.