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Thread: 22/23 gear rumors
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12-10-2021, 07:45 AM #26Registered User
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12-10-2021, 08:37 AM #27Registered User
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Interesting enough, I'm really sold that heavy skis, ski better. I'm not convinced that heavy bindings offer anything. Remembering how dead frame bindings made skis feel, I think a good portion of that was the 2lbs per foot you were adding.
The shift is already way way lighter than a Pivot or STH. A slimmed down version could have a lot of interesting applications. Essentially a 2400 gram ski + resort shift could be the same total weight at as a 1800 gram ski + Pivot. I imagine there would be some trade offs clearly... but I would 10/10 consider for my wife especially as a lighter skier and if retention is good, pairing this with a playful powder ski could be super fun.
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12-10-2021, 08:43 AM #28I Like Snow
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12-10-2021, 08:52 AM #29Registered User
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Tecnica coming out with a 1000gram class touring boot. No changes except for colours to the Zero G Tours.
No more Driver toe apparently from the Amer Group, consolidating into a new Warden'esque' binding.
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12-10-2021, 09:04 AM #30Undertow
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22/23 gear rumors
Uuuuhhhh are you saying my beloved and favorite STH binding will be no more or going through a pretty significant change…?
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12-10-2021, 11:29 AM #31
^^ No no no say it ain’t so. Driver toe ain’t broke so why fix it
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12-10-2021, 12:16 PM #32
Seems weird for Amer to make a new AFD for the STH2 this year and drop it a season later. But I have no inside knowledge.
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12-10-2021, 01:20 PM #33Registered User
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Agreed. ATK brakes are just for show when you have to ride lifts with your tech setup
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12-10-2021, 01:47 PM #34
Was thinking the same thing. With boot sole compatibility being a bigger deal these days, I get wanting to “simplify” the toe design.
I wonder how many Guardians they sell these days? Seems like the Warden/Guardian toe piece design was all about removing material from the traditional STH design to allow for the binding toe to pivot. With that design on its way to being obsolete, perhaps centralizing the design around the Shift style makes more sense? I also wonder what the ratio of STH to Guardian bindings is these days? I still prefer the elastic travel and retention of the STH toe, but perhaps the market is shifting?In constant pursuit of the perfect slarve...
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12-10-2021, 06:18 PM #35
The pictured toe piece is the new shift that I saw the salomon guys skiing at Alta. I have zero info on them. I was just loading the chair behind them and saw it.
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12-10-2021, 08:12 PM #36
Also from NS: new armada whitewalker 121 and looks like an ARG UL.
Wider WW is interesting but I’m more interested in a light weight ARG for touring. Glad I held out on picking up some ARGs this fall. The current version is a tank.
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12-10-2021, 08:54 PM #37
^^ Awesome niche skis, but doubtful they’ll sell many.
Would love to try touring on an ARG UL, but sure wouldn’t want to ski it inbounds.
Doubt many folks have the skills needed to ride those Whitewalkers like they’re made to… or rather fly them
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12-11-2021, 12:12 AM #38
Yeah,
that ARG UL is intriguing. I've never used a true reverse/reverse ski before, want to try.
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12-11-2021, 09:22 AM #39
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12-11-2021, 09:38 AM #40Registered User
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Anyone have intel on the rumored Rossi Black Ops 110?
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12-11-2021, 09:46 AM #41
ugh don't kill the driver toe, im already hoarding sth 1.0, now it seems ill need to buy a few sth2.
Also lay off us narrow feet narrow heel people, every boot is already too wide (Save for a few)Do I detect a lot of anger flowing around this place? Kind of like a pubescent volatility, some angst, a lot of I'm-sixteen-and-angry-at-my-father syndrome?
fuck that noise.
gmen.
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12-11-2021, 11:38 AM #42
Relax, Sth2 16 is still in the line for next year.
Click. Point. Chute.
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12-13-2021, 01:06 PM #43
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12-13-2021, 01:10 PM #44
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12-13-2021, 01:48 PM #45
22/23 gear rumors
https://issuu.com/atomic_ski/docs/at...atalog_2223_us
Shows the new Strive binding.
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12-13-2021, 01:59 PM #46Registered User
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that catalog has no change to the shift (as posted earlier in the thread). Also great to see that 110 bent chet too.
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12-13-2021, 02:30 PM #47
22/23 gear rumors
Apparently that’s the new sth toe, I think it’s around 200g lighter for the pair
EDIT: maybe it’s called the strive now?
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12-13-2021, 02:40 PM #48
That Strive toe looks a whole lot like a Shift toe that doesn't shift.
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12-13-2021, 02:40 PM #49
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12-13-2021, 02:58 PM #50indentured servant
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