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Thread: is my bootfitter wack?
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12-02-2021, 12:20 PM #51
Skinny foot in a size 9 shoe, comfortable performance fit in a 24.5 boot, roomier touring fit in a 25.5.
It’s a bit bizarre, but you need to think about ski boots as being separate from your shoe size. It’s cliche, but getting in to the smaller sizes makes a HUGE difference in how your ski boots perform over their lifetime. I can’t stress this enough to friends who try to go it
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12-02-2021, 03:09 PM #52
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12-02-2021, 03:38 PM #53
It's about girth, ask your Mom.
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12-02-2021, 03:56 PM #54
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12-02-2021, 03:58 PM #55Registered User
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12-02-2021, 11:01 PM #56Registered User
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Thanks Shredhead, hard not to be flattered.
Two things:
Us " boot whisperers" know there is nothing to be gained by circle jerking over someone's boot fit on the Interweb. Al Gore has failed us here.
Secondly, since somewhere around 80% of skiers are in boots at least one size too big, if someone who works with ski boots tells you that your boots are too big, there's a pretty good chance your boots are too big.
Since everyone here is totally connected and absolutely rips, maybe that number is more like 50%.
When you rent they automatically put you in boots a size too big, and the people still whine, even in a boot with all the fit characteristics of the box it came in.
The consumer if left to their own devices will almost always choose a boot too big because it's more "comfortable ".
When you mash all the numbers, there is usually a few mm's of compression between the dimensions of the foot and the stated dimensions of the boot. The amount of compression tolerated does seem to correlate pretty directly to the skill level of the participant.
Properly fit ski boots are an acquired taste. Kind of like beer or coffee. Once you decide you like the effect, you convince yourself that you like the flavor.
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12-03-2021, 09:06 AM #57
This is truth. Every Fall i line the kids against the wall and trace a line at the end of the big toe. Measure in centimeters. Done. Their street shoes are irrelevant and usually too large.
Good point about some liners being too tight. I have gone in for a punch, and the fitter said nope, shell is fine, so he made little slices in the outside of the liner to let it stretch out more.. . .
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12-03-2021, 09:30 AM #58
There’s a kid on ski team, feet smaller than my youngest…skis boots 2 sizers bigger than her and complains that they are small. I took the liner out, showed mom the inch of space in front of toes and explained it was him sliding forward in the boots. No change. Sigh
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12-03-2021, 12:00 PM #59Registered User
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12-03-2021, 02:31 PM #60Registered User
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Size 12 feet, boots are 28/28.5. Every "bootfitter" I've ever seen tries to put me in 29's. 29's are flat out too big for my foot. Most bootfitters are, probably, seasonal employees that help with boots, and really don't know shit about anything.
If you have size 11 feet, I cannot imagine 29's are not too big.
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12-04-2021, 02:53 PM #61Registered User
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Or ...... your size 12 street shoes are too big.
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12-04-2021, 08:55 PM #62
Isn't the point of this whole thread that we need to find talented boot fitters and let them see our feet and then recommend boots that are appropriate? Try on a couple of the recommendations, pick one and then let the fitter do their magic to customize?
I'm 39. I think I learned this lesson in my early 20s.
Is it really still a discussion??
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12-04-2021, 09:25 PM #63Registered User
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Skis that are way too long and boots that are way too small. It's hard to figure what you folks are trying to over compensate for?
Bunch of masochists I guess...
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12-04-2021, 09:32 PM #64Registered User
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actually what happens in real life
buddy buys cool boots cheap/ on-line/ cuz cheap and cool,
fucks around trying to get them to work but they don't so he sells them off, does the exact same thing year after year
when you count up all the $$$ he spent on couriers / paying a boot fitter by the hr, he has spent net mo money than if he just paid list for a boot fitter to guaranty a fit with no drama/ no pain/ no extra boot fitting $Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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12-05-2021, 12:57 AM #65
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12-06-2021, 08:14 AM #66Registered User
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If I may chime in:
My feet are quite similar in size to yours, accordingly to Very Feet, just a few mm longer, especially the left one 27,6cm and a couple mm slender.
I use Salomon MTN Lab 27 as touring boot altough with a thicker Palau liner and a butterfly padding at the achilles tendon for better heel retain. It works quite well.
I also use Lange XT 130 LV in 26,5 (quite the same as the RX) basically in original state which I can use the whole day, but the toes are a bit crushed vertically.
Did you have the same issue and in case how did you solve it?
Thanks in advance!
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12-06-2021, 09:02 AM #67Registered User
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This has been bouncing around in my head the last few days.
To get ideal fit size down 3 shell sizes for starters. Maybe try 4. Order both to be on the safe side.
Remove liners as their function will be replaced socks, preferably mid weight hikers as these will provide cushion between the shell and your foot.
/s
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12-06-2021, 10:08 AM #68Registered User
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Sounds (horribly) risky (and fraught with pain): you go first.
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12-06-2021, 10:24 AM #69
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12-06-2021, 10:30 AM #70
Just got fit for new boots yesterday. Almost always wear 11.5 shoes and was fit in 28.5 boots (from a very reputable shop), so obviously that’s the correct answer and everyone who says otherwise is wrong… except maybe Senior Researcher. Still need to check in with his mom
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12-07-2021, 04:06 AM #71
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12-07-2021, 06:29 AM #72Registered User
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12-07-2021, 08:13 AM #73
Another data point. Size 14 feet. With alittle boot stretching I got into a 23.5
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12-07-2021, 01:55 PM #74
Size 10 shoe and size 31 boots, but I tuck my dick into one and my balls into the other. YMMV.
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12-07-2021, 01:59 PM #75
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