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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong View Post
    and you can skip the first few minutes about setting base edge bevel - typically the only work you want to do on the base edge is run a ceramic stone or fine diamond stone on the base edge after sharpening the side edge to remove the burr that sharpening forms. Base bevel is set from the factory
    THIS is the kind of content i wanted. Gems on how to get bang for buck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraham View Post
    I get the impression he wants the Doug Coombs tuning tutorial.
    A classic…always worth a bump….

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    Quote Originally Posted by californiagrown View Post
    THIS is the kind of content i wanted. Gems on how to get bang for buck.
    Not always.

    Just mounted some faction candide 5.0 and they had little to no base bevel... which would suck hard on a ski that wide. I put a 1.5 degree on them myself.

    They SHOULD have a base bevel from the factory but I wouldn't assume that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty_J View Post
    Not always.

    Just mounted some faction candide 5.0 and they had little to no base bevel... which would suck hard on a ski that wide. I put a 1.5 degree on them myself.

    They SHOULD have a base bevel from the factory but I wouldn't assume that.
    True, but now you’re progressing beyond Ski Bum tuning level. Can’t assume bases are flat either. Ski Bum may want to check the base edge bevel and if it needs adjustment then take it to a reputable shop. If Ski Bum wants to progress to Shop Rat tuning level and set base bevel themselves, then maybe take the time to watch the more in depth tuning clinic videos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong View Post
    True, but now you’re progressing beyond Ski Bum tuning level. Can’t assume bases are flat either. Ski Bum may want to check the base edge bevel and if it needs adjustment then take it to a reputable shop. If Ski Bum wants to progress to Shop Rat tuning level and set base bevel themselves, then maybe take the time to watch the more in depth tuning clinic videos.
    Agreed.

    But my point is taking a free tune out of the deal is likely a benefit for the OP because you can't always trust the factory tune.
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty_J View Post
    Not always.

    Just mounted some faction candide 5.0 and they had little to no base bevel... which would suck hard on a ski that wide. I put a 1.5 degree on them myself.

    They SHOULD have a base bevel from the factory but I wouldn't assume that.
    Whats funny is whenever my skis have acted weird or grabby or something ive just resorted to progressively detuning further and further until the funny handling stopped. I also stopped holding an edge on crust, ice, and compacted hardpack. Probably a non-flat base and or fucked base bevel. But at least without any edges to speak of, the snow cannot unexpectedly "catch" one....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty_J View Post
    Agreed.

    But my point is taking a free tune out of the deal is likely a benefit for the OP because you can't always trust the factory tune.
    Sorry, didn’t realize we were back on the point of this thread. Yes, often the factory tune is not perfect, and I’d happily take a free shop grind/tune to correct the dimples. If it’s a good shop with good equipment/techs you’ll very likely have a ski that’s in better than factory condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by californiagrown View Post
    Whats funny is whenever my skis have acted weird or grabby or something ive just resorted to progressively detuning further and further until the funny handling stopped. I also stopped holding an edge on crust, ice, and compacted hardpack. Probably a non-flat base and or fucked base bevel. But at least without any edges to speak of, the snow cannot unexpectedly "catch" one....
    That works but is not ideal. You're sacrificing the point of the edges to compensate for a bad tune.

    Not judging at all... but the ideal situation is a quality flat tune with appropriate base bevels, and minor detuning.

    Mount point can play into this as well.
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    The Baker Bob edge tuning guide:

    1)Ski to lift line corral
    2)Place ski edge on metal crowd gate
    3)Move leg forward and back to run edges on metal pipe
    4)Proclaim audibly "That should work!"
    5)Go ski

    Repeat steps again if detune is not to desired levels

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    Quote Originally Posted by NW_SKIER View Post
    The Baker Bob edge tuning guide:

    1)Ski to lift line corral
    2)Place ski edge on metal crowd gate
    3)Move leg forward and back to run edges on metal pipe
    4)Proclaim audibly "That should work!"
    5)Go ski

    Repeat steps again if detune is not to desired levels
    Yeah I've done that.

    Or find a rock and hack away until happiness ensues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2FUNKY View Post
    Im more in disbelief that the OP actually paid. I would have kindly explained how I’m not paying for your fuck up then laugh at them even trying to charge me.
    I have never been in that kind of position before, these guys have mounted skis no problem multiple times for me. At that point I guess I just didnt really know what to say.
    I am calling them today to see what can be done and what they can offer me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty_J View Post
    Ahhh... I missed that.

    Not sure how you dimple a base with that scenario... weird.

    Wrong bit depth maybe?
    Yeah they are Jskis masterblaster, with an attack 14 AT bindings.

    Yeah it baffled me as well. will find out today what they can do for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty_J View Post
    Yeah I've done that.

    Or find a rock and hack away until happiness ensues.
    In the Rocky Rockies ... the rock finds you

    I have taken along a small piece of emery cloth to dull the tails of an especaly evil handling ski do 5 cms and try it out

    If the binding screws arent all the same length maybe they got em mixed up ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by NW_SKIER View Post
    The Baker Bob edge tuning guide:

    1)Ski to lift line corral
    2)Place ski edge on metal crowd gate
    3)Move leg forward and back to run edges on metal pipe
    4)Proclaim audibly "That should work!"
    5)Go ski

    Repeat steps again if detune is not to desired levels
    ^yes I have literally done this (minus the proclaim). I would also recommend Shorty’s rock detuning method.
    Do what you like, Like what you do.

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    2,700+ thread views, the snow must be lousy all over.

    Carry on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1000-oaks View Post
    2,700+ thread views, the snow must be lousy all over.

    Carry on.
    Lol, surprisingly Banff and lake Louise here in Alberta has been having a unbelievable start to the season!

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    my guess oud be
    failure to demung your holes
    or excessive tappin
    safety devices matter

    i like to tune my own skis
    cept on somebodies elses dime
    and 1/4 of a mil worth of machines
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    Quote Originally Posted by NW_SKIER View Post
    In the future, mount your own skis. Saves you from having precious gear screwed up by a shop rat who's likely chomping shroom sammies for lunch before handling your shit.
    That's funny given that just about every post in this forum discussing working on your own skis seems to mention the ingestion or inhalation of intoxicating substances as step one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    That's funny given that just about every post in this forum discussing working on your own skis seems to mention the ingestion or inhalation of intoxicating substances as step one.
    Rules don't apply when fucking your own shit up, doc.

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    I’ve mounted a shit ton of skis in the shop and at home. I dimpled a pair mounting some tyrolia bindings….the front heel screws were way too fucking long. Reached out to the company and got told they fucked up a few and had let the shops know, sent me the right screws. Maybe this is what happened?


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