Winter Olympics 2022

[allmountainsnowskating]

Hot take: does there need to be both aerials and big air? Seems like one is flippy, twisty stuff with grabs and one is flippy, twisty stuff without grabs. Oh yeah, sometimes the big air people also cross their skis...

Yeah, I personally think that they're different disciplines. They have different tricks and scoring and goals.

The aerialists do like 3 separate maneuvers (that are separately named tricks from big air) with straightened arms and bodies under an aerials scoring criteria. That's like 9 separate axes of rotation.

The big air does a single maneuver under 2 or 3 axes of rotation but with higher degrees of rotation. They're scoring also depends on their grab and how much they cork it out.

To me they're completely different things.

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[allmountainsnowskating]

The contrast was really evident in the men's moguls, where the competitors favored doing an aerial trick on the first jump and a freestyle trick on the second. The double fulls and double corks looked nothing alike.

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[jackstraw]

I'm gonna agree as well. Ever since big air (and even slopestyle) became a thing, I've wondered what is the point of aerial? Big air guys go so HUDGE and do so many tricks... to me, it always looks like the aerial people are training to become big air folks.

You kinda have that backwards. Aerials were way before big air stuff. The big air and pipe people have been schooled by the aerialists and their coaches on body awareness in the air. Still, it seems like aerial, like ballet, days have gone past.

[::: :::]

I was not suggesting to "bring back ballet". I was thinking that some ballet style moves would be nice degree of difficulty adds to slopestyle on the rails. boxes, etc when they're not on the jumps..

yeah, no

[sirbumpsalot]

I'd like to see 100m, 200m, 400m CC ski sprints. Run it in heats like summer Game running sprints.

[The AD]

About the only thing I can think of from ballet that might fit into today's bag of tricks would be flipping over poles. The other stuff seems a bit fussy.

[J. Barron DeJong]

About the only thing I can think of from ballet that might fit into today's bag of tricks would be flipping over poles. The other stuff seems a bit fussy.

I like that idea! That way we can get rid of the freestyle guys who think it’s ok to ski without them

[SumJongGuy]

I'm thinking 1 footed rail and box grinds..

[altacoup]

^^^
Watch some urban ski edits. Plenty of one footed tricks in that world. It’s also rad to see how much effort the urban kids put into skiing. They get really creative finding things to do in flat mid western, eastern and European cities.

[Toadman]

I've felt for a long time that they should ditch Aerials and add Moguls to the Park, Pipe, and Big Air stuff for a unified Feestyle/X-Games format. Also bring back the combined (with a really big prize incentive to ski all events) and add ballet moves to Slopestyle.

Add to that some "roller derby" style action, and I think you have a homerun event. You know, kind of a Chinese style downhill. Start at the very top of the downhill course, throw in some moguls, some slopestyle, then a dozen or so slalom gates, the big kicker somewhere in the middle of the course, half pipe near the end, and then another giant kicker at the very end, with a moat. Fill it with sharks. Laser beams optional.

[mcphee]

Gonna get some heat for this one but….I absolutely hate park and pipe skiing. It’s so reminiscent to me of rollerbladers at the skate parks or street spots in the 90s-00s. Skiers look dumb doing that shit, it’s for snowboarders.


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[Not DJSapp]

Add to that some "roller derby" style action, and I think you have a homerun event. You know, kind of a Chinese style downhill. Start at the very top of the downhill course, through in some moguls, some slopestyle, then a dozen or so slalom gates, the big kicker somewhere in the middle of the course, half pipe near the end, and then another giant kicker at the very end, with a moat. Fill it with sharks. Laser beams optional.

Make it a full lap and include the fistfight at the maze and pushing each other over to get on the chair

[allmountainsnowskating]

You kinda have that backwards. Aerials were way before big air stuff. The big air and pipe people have been schooled by the aerialists and their coaches on body awareness in the air. Still, it seems like aerial, like ballet, days have gone past.

For the mixed aerials, there was only enough athletes to have 4 teams of 3.

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[Dantheman]

Gonna get some heat for this one but….I absolutely hate park and pipe skiing. It’s so reminiscent to me of rollerbladers at the skate parks or street spots in the 90s-00s. Skiers look dumb doing that shit, it’s for snowboarders.

You're high AF




Yeah, I know that's a quarterpipe pic and not halfpipe, point stands.

[Toadman]

Make it a full lap and include the fistfight at the maze and pushing each other over to get on the chair

No chair. Got to transition to the alpine touring set up. Now that I am thinking this through. Add a bit of biathlon to it. Except no stupid .22 rim fire gun. A 6 shooter pistol with moving targets. And I like the idea of making the participants have to skim across the moat on the finishing lap. 5 second penalty if you don't make it across.

[Tap]

You're high AF




Yeah, I know that's a quarterpipe pic and not halfpipe, point stands.

only cause they have poles. mini-poles, at that. but poles.

no poles, no cools.

[JimmyCarter]

You're high AF




Yeah, I know that's a quarterpipe pic and not halfpipe, point stands.

Skiers boost higher and tricks have more variability, so I prefer it to snowboard at this point, although at a certain point they're both just flippy spinny shit to me.


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[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

No chair. Got to transition to the alpine touring set up. Now that I am thinking this through. Add a bit of biathlon to it. Except no stupid .22 rim fire gun. A 6 shooter pistol with moving targets. And I like the idea of making the participants have to skim across the moat on the finishing lap. 5 second penalty if you don't make it across.

Can we get some parking lot stuff added in?

[total_immortal]

Can we get some parking lot stuff added in?

Like tail gaiting or finding a parking spot at a vail resort on a saturday?

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

I'm thinking like four competitors, four parking spots, each one farther away from the lift than the other. Line them up and drop the flag. Oh, and let's get rid of this ban on PED bullshit.

[The AD]

Like tail gaiting

Is this defined as walking like you have a tail?

[SumJongGuy]

The event is finally over when my pizza arrives...

[Dee Hubbs]

Who would do better?
The Aerialists Athletes on the Big Air jump?
Or
The Big Air Athletes on the Aerialists jump?

I don't mean having to compelete the same tricks, just who would handle the other jump better?

[Mofro261]

Tie-breaker- they have to complete their same tricks off the Nordic Jump.

[SumJongGuy]

Who would do better?
The Aerialists Athletes on the Big Air jump?
Or
The Big Air Athletes on the Aerialists jump?

I don't mean having to compelete the same tricks, just who would handle the other jump better?

Do they have to be able to hit them switch?