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  1. #526
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    FKNA right.

    Quote Originally Posted by AK47bp View Post
    Save our Chairlifts!!!

    Am I the only one that likes riding lifts anymore? I just like to go fast.

    Touring is okay.

    Guess I’m lazy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles View Post
    If I lived in WA, Oft would be my realtor. Seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oftpiste View Post
    My question too. I think it has been something of a challenge for Bluebird.
    Part of, but not all of the reasons why backcountry skiing exists is the relative cost savings when compared to left-served. Sometimes, some people don't wish to pay for lift tickets. Now you add some of that part back in for a managed area with no lifts. Will skiesr pay? I would, but that's splitting an already small market.

    Personally, I love the idea, but there may not be enough of my type of skier to make such a thing viable when that demographic of skier will just go down the road and ski Forest Service land. For free.

  3. #528
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brasso View Post
    Aside from Mission Ridge, WA grooming in general doesn't even come close to Bachelor. Sorry to break it to ya.
    I hear you. I'll keep that secret from my wife.

  4. #529
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    Quote Originally Posted by oftpiste View Post
    My question too. I think it has been something of a challenge for Bluebird.
    Running a business with a customer base made up largely of people who don’t want to pay very much if anything at all has got to be a challenge
    “I have a responsibility to not be intimidated and bullied by low life losers who abuse what little power is granted to them as ski patrollers.”

  5. #530
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    Quote Originally Posted by snoqpass View Post
    Running a business with a customer base made up largely of people who don’t want to pay very much if anything at all has got to be a challenge
    Plus people who usually don't want other people around outside their immediate group.

  6. #531
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brasso View Post
    Aside from Mission Ridge, WA grooming in general doesn't even come close to Bachelor. Sorry to break it to ya.
    White pass is top notch grooming. Better snow too.

  7. #532
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    Quote Originally Posted by NW_SKIER View Post
    White pass is top notch grooming. Better snow too.
    Oh sweet, I'll have to check it out this year. GF has an Indy Pass too this year, so I'll finally have someone to drag out there with me.

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  8. #533
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    Yeah, but Alpental debris piles are second to none.
    Building character since 1967(?)


    Last year one day earlish season the grooming on the lower-lower mtn under Chair 1 was hilarious. It was a single track wide groomed, 3' nearly vertical drop to another groom track, to a totally missed 5' refrozen rubble patch, to another groom track. Made me smile.

  9. #534
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    Quote Originally Posted by phatty View Post
    Plus people who usually don't want other people around outside their immediate group.
    All of the above. And you really can't charge a ton to let people walk up your hill. With staffing, insurance (gotta be major), infrastructure etc, it's hard to see how it pencils as a business. They do offer avy and basic touring training and instruction which generates something, but it can't be much.

    That said, my GF has friends involved there and they seem to be plugging along, and I think they even had some investors aboard early on. Haven't heard much about it for a while tho.
    Quote Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles View Post
    If I lived in WA, Oft would be my realtor. Seriously.

  10. #535
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    Quote Originally Posted by NW_SKIER View Post
    White pass is top notch grooming. Better snow too.
    Shhhhhh... I want to have all that corduroy to myself!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by californiagrown View Post
    Building character since 1967(?)


    Last year one day earlish season the grooming on the lower-lower mtn under Chair 1 was hilarious. It was a single track wide groomed, 3' nearly vertical drop to another groom track, to a totally missed 5' refrozen rubble patch, to another groom track. Made me smile.
    You gotta try the Bluewood death cookies.
    Quote Originally Posted by hortence View Post
    When I did twice the work for half the control, I was a whiny little bitch

  12. #537
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kopi_Red View Post
    Shhhhhh... I want to have all that corduroy to myself!!!
    Rippin cords and stealing hearts out there, aren't you?

  13. #538
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    Quote Originally Posted by AK47bp View Post
    Open groomers??? Haha.

    Silver fur and Hyak have better terrain for your wife. That’s where I take mine.


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    The longest groomer on the pass, we went up Rocky Run and up the road right after it was groomed for snowmobiling there's a couple flat places but we skied it from the junction that goes down the backside or the radio tower on fresh corduroy for several miles
    “I have a responsibility to not be intimidated and bullied by low life losers who abuse what little power is granted to them as ski patrollers.”

  14. #539
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    Quote Originally Posted by NW_SKIER View Post
    White pass is top notch grooming. More snow too.
    FIFY
    Common sense. So rare today in America it's almost like having a superpower.

  15. #540
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    Mission does have some pretty good grooming. Can’t think of anywhere else that a casual 90mph has been recorded in the pnw. Some dude from Alpental that was visiting.

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    Pretty sure it wasn’t pipedream. Not Norseman either. Some ex-racer.

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    Mofro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wickstad View Post
    Mofro?
    Username checks out

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    Quote Originally Posted by NW_SKIER View Post
    Username checks out
    Doubt it was username.

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    Username was there when Donnelly tried the speed record off of Adams. I don’t think he hit 90 mph though. Not groomed either though.

  21. #546
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    Quote Originally Posted by wickstad View Post
    Username was there when Donnelly tried the speed record off of Adams. I don’t think he hit 90 mph though. Not groomed either though.
    Rode the chair with Donnelly today

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    Quote Originally Posted by NW_SKIER View Post
    Rippin cords and stealing hearts out there, aren't you?
    Fack... I just don't want to share any more of my fresh groomed turns with anyone else...

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    Quote Originally Posted by snoqpass View Post
    Running a business with a customer base made up largely of people who don’t want to pay very much if anything at all has got to be a challenge
    That’s the classic randonnee skier. The modern Backcountry Enthusiast just spent $5k on backcountry equipment and would likely be happy to pay a few dollars to figure out how their shifts work at the base of your freshly groomed uphill track before buying a $6 latte and $7 cinnamon roll in your warming cafe. Would probably be willing to spend another few $$$ to park their $100k adventure rig in your plowed lot before realizing they forgot to hit the grocery store on the way up and getting a $22 sandwich and a few $12 beers for the evening.

    $6 Latte and $15 omelette in the morning too.

  25. #550
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirVicSmasher View Post
    Rode the chair with Donnelly today

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    Has he gotten laid yet?
    “I have a responsibility to not be intimidated and bullied by low life losers who abuse what little power is granted to them as ski patrollers.”

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