2021/22 BC Southern Interior

[el hefe]

Heading to Carlyle Hut on the weekend. Forecast not looking promising. Anyone been out in the area recently?

[LeeLau]

It’s both. Having land use designation default to an amalgam of the dreams of a bunch of eccentric misanthropes, is no substitute for actual evidence based and properly resourced planning and management.
Unfortunately we’re now at the point where there is so much pressure on the land base, and so many divergent interests, that getting meaningful participation in any process that might require giving up existing privileges is impossible. Nobody wants to invest in a “collaborative” process in which only those who think they’re going to “win” participate, nobody accepts the results, and otherwise everyone just gets yelled at.
The GBRAP process is widely lauded as a success, but my friends in Golden tell me it’s become irrelevant due to significantly changed (since 1999) recreation patterns and all the usual predictable disfunction.
I don’t see any answer but for some fantasy of enlightened top-down governance, based on principles of long term ecological sustainability, and “common good” based value judgements, and which also deals with the cluster fuck that is forest management in BC. One can dream.

We're in the same situation in the Sea to Sky. Arguably the same applies to the rest of the province with the absence of Skeena-Stikine. Nobody is willing to give an inch.

Yes - I agree- an overall government plan is pie-in-the-sky (government complaining there's no resources - it's your freaking job and you can't do it). Yes an overall government plan is probably going to be disassembled and amended de facto over time by squabbling user groups ala Golden; but you have to have some overall framework in which to work. The provincial abdication of responsibility; while predictable, is entirely frustrating. There's no predictability other than that everything is capricious and unpredictable.

[LeeLau]

Heading to Carlyle Hut on the weekend. Forecast not looking promising. Anyone been out in the area recently?

Kokanee got pineappled to 2300m. Carlyle may be no different. Expect some of the rain crust to have faceted out but don't expect over the head blower

[UkBCyeti]

Hearing good things today if you're willing to search a little. Guide buddy came through the door stoked just now.
Like Lee said overhead blower is not on the cards, but avy danger is low and the crust is breaking down. Certainly in the WH20 backcountry anyway.

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[BCMtnHound]

Land use planning has not been well managed since they removed the old MSRM back at the turn of the millennium (thanks BC Libs - the political right in BC for you citizens of the republic). It was cumbersome, expensive and not entirely successful, but most knew where they stood with respect to their tenure and land management (big industry tenures were the biggest losers, which is what prompted the Libs to axe the ministry). But that was 20+ yrs ago, and our population has grown, technology has improved for both resource extraction and recreation, and First Nations are beginning to come to realize their own power.

For anyone that has a deep interest in land use planning, there are senior and mid-level bureaucrat opportunities coming out almost daily in several of the resource and dirt ministries. Put those great ideas and frustrations to work, for the betterment of all the people of the province (and not just your own interest group). I double dog dare you We get the government (and bureaucracy) we deserve.

[LeeLau]

Good watch from Miles Clark of Snowbrains. Thanks to him for posting this. Decent sized involvement in avalanche in RMR accessed backcountry from Montana Bowl. Explanations and debrief in the comments

https://www.instagram.com/p/CY5XIiOr..._web_copy_link

[UkBCyeti]

Good watch from Miles Clark of Snowbrains. Thanks to him for posting this. Decent sized involvement in avalanche in RMR accessed backcountry from Montana Bowl. Explanations and debrief in the comments

https://www.instagram.com/p/CY5XIiOr..._web_copy_link

Thanks for sharing Lee and Miles.

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[UkBCyeti]

Wh20 Wednesdays!
-2 c high -6c low
246 base
Off groomers.. not great. Backcountry ( second hand info) good travel and not as bas as expected on planar alpine slopes.
CAA is saying Considerable Moderate Low for tomorrow as there is snow forcast to come in with warmimg temps and wind.
5-16cm

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[LeeLau]

Revy

[UkBCyeti]

Nelson

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[LeeLau]

Fyi https://avalanche.pc.gc.ca/station-eng.aspx?d=TODAY

Fidelity snowfall totals showing again

[el hefe]

Got 10cm downtown vernon. Better then nothing!

[alive]

Early morning tour showed 10 warm centimetres up at Big White this morning but the was actually super fun turns. Below 1700 m, things started to get sloppy though

[teamdirt]

Overhead blower in south Revy- 60-80cm since Monday. hopefully this helped everyone out for better turns, however be careful she is spicy.

[el hefe]

^ you talking trout area? Not too far from Carlyle...... fingers crossed.

[UkBCyeti]

https://avalanche.ca/spaw/2022-01-20-spaw

Stay on your toez out there.

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[teamdirt]

^ you talking trout area? Not too far from Carlyle...... fingers crossed.

Yeah- your good. Meant to tell u earlier.

However- Alpine is toast. High winds.

[teamdirt]

https://avalanche.ca/spaw/2022-01-20-spaw

Stay on your toez out there.

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We were popping sporadic 50ish cm deep 50ft wide 100-150ft pockets in open tree yesterday. Today- tightened up a bit but u know it’s lurking....

[el hefe]

Thank you sir. It is what it is but info never hurts. Sun glasses and north faces for the win!!

[UkBCyeti]

We were popping sporadic 50ish cm deep 50ft wide 100-150ft pockets in open tree yesterday. Today- tightened up a bit but u know it’s lurking....

Yeah, judging by the previous slides round here, that's definitely not a dragon's tail I want to step on...

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[LeeLau]

1.2 hours from Hope to Merritt on the Coq. Good travel conditions for the trip to ski at Revy area

Well done on the road repair

[SpeLunker]

1.2 hours from Hope to Merritt on the Coq. Good travel conditions for the trip to ski at Revy area

Well done on the road repair

Impressive work getting that road back up so quickly.

[UkBCyeti]

Wh20 Wednesday!
-8
Chalky with good groomers and occasional surface hoar turns..

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[LeeLau]

Above the clouds at RMR

[Dromond]

Lee is skiing groomers. Shit must be getting dire!

FWIW I had good skiing in the Selkirks last week, but the the alpine was more wind hammered than my previous four trips there. Freezing level appeared to have stayed just low enough, and there was no melt freeze crust at valley bottom. That was a squeaker.